linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5 1/6] mm/page_idle: Add per-pid idle page tracking using virtual index

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Date:   Wed, 7 Aug 2019 17:55:49 -0400
From:   Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
To:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Brendan Gregg <bgregg@...flix.com>,
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        Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@...il.com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/6] mm/page_idle: Add per-pid idle page tracking
 using virtual index

On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 05:31:05PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:58:40PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 16:45:30 -0400 Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:04:02PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > > On Wed,  7 Aug 2019 13:15:54 -0400 "Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@...lfernandes.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > In Android, we are using this for the heap profiler (heapprofd) which
> > > > > profiles and pin points code paths which allocates and leaves memory
> > > > > idle for long periods of time. This method solves the security issue
> > > > > with userspace learning the PFN, and while at it is also shown to yield
> > > > > better results than the pagemap lookup, the theory being that the window
> > > > > where the address space can change is reduced by eliminating the
> > > > > intermediate pagemap look up stage. In virtual address indexing, the
> > > > > process's mmap_sem is held for the duration of the access.
> > > > 
> > > > So is heapprofd a developer-only thing?  Is heapprofd included in
> > > > end-user android loads?  If not then, again, wouldn't it be better to
> > > > make the feature Kconfigurable so that Android developers can enable it
> > > > during development then disable it for production kernels?
> > > 
> > > Almost all of this code is already configurable with
> > > CONFIG_IDLE_PAGE_TRACKING. If you disable it, then all of this code gets
> > > disabled.
> > > 
> > > Or are you referring to something else that needs to be made configurable?
> > 
> > Yes - the 300+ lines of code which this patchset adds!
> > 
> > The impacted people will be those who use the existing
> > idle-page-tracking feature but who will not use the new feature.  I
> > guess we can assume this set is small...
> 
> Yes, I think this set should be small. The code size increase of page_idle.o
> is from ~1KB to ~2KB. Most of the extra space is consumed by
> page_idle_proc_generic() function which this patch adds. I don't think adding
> another CONFIG option to disable this while keeping existing
> CONFIG_IDLE_PAGE_TRACKING enabled, is worthwhile but I am open to the
> addition of such an option if anyone feels strongly about it. I believe that
> once this patch is merged, most like this new interface being added is what

s/most like/most likely/

> will be used more than the old interface (for some of the usecases) so it
> makes sense to keep it alive with CONFIG_IDLE_PAGE_TRACKING.
> 
> thanks,
> 
>  - Joel
>