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Message-ID: <5fa2aa99-89fa-cd41-b090-36a23cfdeb73@huawei.com>
Date:   Mon, 2 Sep 2019 20:25:24 +0800
From:   Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/9] x86: numa: check the node id consistently for x86

On 2019/9/2 15:25, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2019 at 01:46:51PM +0800, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
>> On 2019/9/1 0:12, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>>> 1) because even it is not set, the device really does belong to a node.
>>> It is impossible a device will have magic uniform access to memory when
>>> CPUs cannot.
>>
>> So it means dev_to_node() will return either NUMA_NO_NODE or a
>> valid node id?
> 
> NUMA_NO_NODE := -1, which is not a valid node number. It is also, like I
> said, not a valid device location on a NUMA system.
> 
> Just because ACPI/BIOS is shit, doesn't mean the device doesn't have a
> node association. It just means we don't know and might have to guess.

How do we guess the device's location when ACPI/BIOS does not set it?

It seems dev_to_node() does not do anything about that and leave the
job to the caller or whatever function that get called with its return
value, such as cpumask_of_node().

> 
>>> 2) is already true today, cpumask_of_node() requires a valid node_id.
>>
>> Ok, most of the user does check node_id before calling
>> cpumask_of_node(), but does a little different type of checking:
>>
>> 1) some does " < 0" check;
>> 2) some does "== NUMA_NO_NODE" check;
>> 3) some does ">= MAX_NUMNODES" check;
>> 4) some does "< 0 || >= MAX_NUMNODES || !node_online(node)" check.
> 
> The one true way is:
> 
> 	'(unsigned)node_id >= nr_node_ids'

I missed the magic of the "unsigned" in your previous reply.

> 
>>> 3) is just wrong and increases overhead for everyone.
>>
>> Ok, cpumask_of_node() is also used in some critical path such
>> as scheduling, which may not need those checking, the overhead
>> is unnecessary.
>>
>> But for non-critical path such as setup or configuration path,
>> it better to have consistent checking, and also simplify the
>> user code that calls cpumask_of_node().
>>
>> Do you think it is worth the trouble to add a new function
>> such as cpumask_of_node_check(maybe some other name) to do
>> consistent checking?
>>
>> Or caller just simply check if dev_to_node()'s return value is
>> NUMA_NO_NODE before calling cpumask_of_node()?
> 
> It is not a matter of convenience. The function is called
> cpumask_of_node(), when node < 0 || node >= nr_node_ids, it is not a
> valid node, therefore the function shouldn't return anything except an
> error.
what do you mean by error? What I can think is three type of errors:
1) return NULL, this way it seems cpumask_of_node() also leave the
   job to the function that calls it.
2) cpu_none_mask, I am not sure what this means, maybe it means there
   is no cpu on the same node with the device?
3) give a warning, stack dump, or even a BUG_ON?

I would prefer the second one, and implement the third one when the
CONFIG_DEBUG_PER_CPU_MAPS is selected.

Any suggestion?

> 
> Also note that the CONFIG_DEBUG_PER_CPU_MAPS version of
> cpumask_of_node() already does this (although it wants the below fix).

Thanks for the note and example.

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