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Date:   Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:49:21 +0300
From:   Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:     Oliver Neukum <oneukum@...e.com>,
        Anthony Wong <anthony.wong@...onical.com>,
        Mario.Limonciello@...l.com,
        Andreas Noever <andreas.noever@...il.com>,
        Yehezkel Bernat <YehezkelShB@...il.com>,
        Michael Jamet <michael.jamet@...el.com>,
        Rajmohan Mani <rajmohan.mani@...el.com>,
        Nicholas Johnson <nicholas.johnson-opensource@...look.com.au>,
        Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
        Lukas Wunner <lukas@...ner.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 17/22] thunderbolt: Add initial support for USB4

On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 10:39:54AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 11:30:34AM +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 06:27:42PM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > Am Dienstag, den 01.10.2019, 18:07 +0300 schrieb Mika Westerberg:
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > > OK, but does that break existing .configs? I mean if you have already
> > > > CONFIG_THUNDERBOLT in your .config/defconfig does it now just get
> > > > dropped silently?
> > > 
> > > People will have to look at this new stuff anyway.
> > > 
> > > > For example firewire has CONFIG_FIREWIRE even though the "standard" name
> > > > is IEEE 1394. I was thinking maybe we can do the same for
> > > > USB4/Thunderbolt
> > > 
> > > USB and Thunderbolt used to be distinct protocols. Whereas Firewire
> > > was just a colloquial name for IEEE1394. Please be wordy here.
> > > "Unified support for USB4 and Thunderbolt4"
> > 
> > OK.
> > 
> > I've been thinking this bit more and since Thunderbolt will stick around
> > as well (it basically implements all the optional USB4 features and
> > more) so would it make sense to have the Kconfig option be
> > CONFIG_THUNDERBOLT_USB4 (or CONFIG_USB4_THUNDERBOLT)? That should cover
> > both.
> 
> I would stick with CONFIG_USB4 but put both in the Kconfig text.  Again,
> it will be easier to handle this over time.

OK, thanks Greg!

> > Comments?
> > 
> > Also does anyone have any thoughts about keeping the driver under
> > drivers/thunderbolt vs. moving it under usb like
> > drivers/usb/thunderbolt? I'm thinking if anyone not familiar with this
> > tries to enable support for USB4 so the first place he/she probably
> > looks is under "USB support" menuconfig entry.
> 
> You are not sharing/needing any of the drivers/usb/ code just yet,
> right? 

Yes, that's correct.

> I imagine that will happen "soon" and when it does, then sure,
> moving stuff is fine with me.

OK thanks!

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