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Date:   Thu, 17 Oct 2019 18:22:17 +0530
From:   Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@...aro.org>
To:     James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com>
Cc:     Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Safford, David (GE Global Research, US)" <david.safford@...com>,
        Ken Goldman <kgold@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>,
        "linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org" <linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org>,
        "stable@...r.kernel.org" <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:ASYMMETRIC KEYS" <keyrings@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:CRYPTO API" <linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KEYS: asym_tpm: Switch to get_random_bytes()

On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 00:40, James Bottomley
<James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2019-10-16 at 19:25 +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 08:34:12AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > reversible ciphers are generally frowned upon in random number
> > > generation, that's why the krng uses chacha20.  In general I think
> > > we shouldn't try to code our own mixing and instead should get the
> > > krng to do it for us using whatever the algorithm du jour that the
> > > crypto guys have blessed is.  That's why I proposed adding the TPM
> > > output to the krng as entropy input and then taking the output of
> > > the krng.
> >
> > It is already registered as hwrng. What else?
>
> It only contributes entropy once at start of OS.
>

Why not just configure quality parameter of TPM hwrng as follows? It
would automatically initiate a kthread during hwrng_init() to feed
entropy from TPM to kernel random numbers pool (see:
drivers/char/hw_random/core.c +142).

diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-chip.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-chip.c
index 3d6d394..fcc3817 100644
--- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-chip.c
+++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm-chip.c
@@ -548,6 +548,7 @@ static int tpm_add_hwrng(struct tpm_chip *chip)
                 "tpm-rng-%d", chip->dev_num);
        chip->hwrng.name = chip->hwrng_name;
        chip->hwrng.read = tpm_hwrng_read;
+       chip->hwrng.quality = 1024; /* Here we assume TPM provides
full entropy */
        return hwrng_register(&chip->hwrng);

 }

> >  Was the issue that it is only used as seed when the rng is init'd
> > first? I haven't at this point gone to the internals of krng.
>
> Basically it was similar to your xor patch except I got the kernel rng
> to do the mixing, so it would use the chacha20 cipher at the moment
> until they decide that's unsafe and change it to something else:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/1570227068.17537.4.camel@HansenPartnership.com/
>
> It uses add_hwgenerator_randomness() to do the mixing.  It also has an
> unmixed source so that read of the TPM hwrng device works as expected.

Above suggestion is something similar to yours but utilizing the
framework already provided via hwrng core.

-Sumit

>
> James
>
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