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Message-ID: <20191105200218.GF3079@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:02:18 +0100
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>
Cc: kvm@...r.kernel.org, x86@...nel.org,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com>,
Jim Mattson <jmattson@...gle.com>,
Liran Alon <liran.alon@...cle.com>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] KVM: x86: tell guests if the exposed SMT topology is
trustworthy
On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 05:17:37PM +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> Virtualized guests may pick a different strategy to mitigate hardware
> vulnerabilities when it comes to hyper-threading: disable SMT completely,
> use core scheduling, or, for example, opt in for STIBP. Making the
> decision, however, requires an extra bit of information which is currently
> missing: does the topology the guest see match hardware or if it is 'fake'
> and two vCPUs which look like different cores from guest's perspective can
> actually be scheduled on the same physical core. Disabling SMT or doing
> core scheduling only makes sense when the topology is trustworthy.
>
> Add two feature bits to KVM: KVM_FEATURE_TRUSTWORTHY_SMT with the meaning
> that KVM_HINTS_TRUSTWORTHY_SMT bit answers the question if the exposed SMT
> topology is actually trustworthy. It would, of course, be possible to get
> away with a single bit (e.g. 'KVM_FEATURE_FAKE_SMT') and not lose backwards
> compatibility but the current approach looks more straightforward.
The only way virt topology can make any sense what so ever is if the
vcpus are pinned to physical CPUs.
And I was under the impression we already had a bit for that (isn't it
used to disable paravirt spinlocks and the like?). But I cannot seem to
find it in a hurry.
So I would much rather you have a bit that indicates the 1:1 vcpu/cpu
mapping and if that is set accept the topology information and otherwise
completely ignore it.
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