linux-kernel - Re: GNU/Linux Activation Technologies - You joke, but it's a reality now. GrSecurity is doing JUST THAT.

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Message-ID: <ac0713476c46b1ad0ac85916ed50099b@firemail.cc>
Date:   Sun, 10 Nov 2019 00:36:19 +0000
From:   nipponmail@...email.cc
To:     Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@...il.com>
Cc:     Alexandre François Garreau 
        <galex-713@...ex-713.eu>, gnu-system-discuss@....org,
        gnu-system-discuss 
        <gnu-system-discuss-bounces+nipponmail=firemail.cc@....org>,
        rms@....org
Subject: Re: GNU/Linux Activation Technologies - You joke, but it's a reality
 now. GrSecurity is doing JUST THAT.

You joke, but GrSecurity is selling licenses for it's kernel patch for 
$10,000, and does per-seat licensing. It prevents redistribution of it's 
derivative work via an "access agreement" where-in the licensee promises 
not to redistribute the derivative work, or else suffer a forfeiture of 
his remaining balance, as well as suffer a penalty of recieving no 
furthur versions (which he allready paid for).

So: yes: it is allready happening.
It's not a joke anymore.

Yet you here see this as "insane talk" and "yea they can do that, let's 
patch the /next version/ of the GPL to prevent it!"

No: they /cannot/ do that. Section 6 forbids additional restrictive 
terms, they have added an addional restrictive term (licensee shall no 
redistribute except to customers if required), and are enforcing said 
restrictive term with a negative covenant.


PLEASE Read: 
perens.com/2017/06/28/warning-grsecurity-potential-contributory-infringement-risk-for-customers/

And Page 10 on of this brief: 
perens.com/static/OSS_Spenger_v_Perens/0_2018cv15189/docs1/pdf/18.pdf
(which does discuss the copyright matter, even though the case is on 
another)


On 2019-11-09 20:27, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
> Alexandre François Garreau <galex-713@...ex-713.eu> wrote:
>> Le samedi 9 novembre 2019, 14:25:58 CET Richard Stallman a écrit :
>>> You should install GNU/Linux Activation Technologies Client if you 
>>> are running GNU/Linux.
>>> 
>>> Most distributions are already selling licenses.
>> 
>> I guess this is a forged, illegitimate, mail as it was sent through 
>> something  dealing with PHP.
> 
> Yes, of course.  Though, would consider the fact that it originates
> from the Ukraine more suspicious, than usage of PHP mailer.
> 
>> However might someone enlight me on what “GNU/Linux Activation 
>> Technologies  Client” is and how is it supposed to be installed?  Is 
>> it a trojan?
> 
> No, itʼs a someoneʼs joke [0].  It was already advertised in a same
> manner on other gnu.org m/l a week ago or so.
> 
>> Is it free? x)
> 
> | GNU Project and Linux Foundation set the following fees:
> |
> |   - Single GNU/Linux copy license: $99
> |   - Volume license (starting from 25 copies, only for
> organizations): $49 for every machine
> |   - Key Server license: $999 and full license fee for every license 
> sold
> |
> | Key Server licenses are only sold by GNU Project and Linux 
> Foundation.
> 
> [0] https://notabug.org/GLAT/howtotell