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Message-Id: <28CEC8B8-AC6A-4A13-B5A4-C47DB64B45E6@redhat.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:40:37 +0100
From: David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
Cc: Toshiki Fukasawa <t-fukasawa@...jp.nec.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: Introduce subsection_dev_map
> Am 13.11.2019 um 21:23 schrieb David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>:
>
>
>
>>> Am 13.11.2019 um 21:10 schrieb Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>:
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 11:53 AM David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Am 13.11.2019 um 20:06 schrieb Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 10:51 AM David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08.11.19 20:13, Dan Williams wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:15 PM Toshiki Fukasawa
>>>>>> <t-fukasawa@...jp.nec.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Currently, there is no way to identify pfn on ZONE_DEVICE.
>>>>>>> Identifying pfn on system memory can be done by using a
>>>>>>> section-level flag. On the other hand, identifying pfn on
>>>>>>> ZONE_DEVICE requires a subsection-level flag since ZONE_DEVICE
>>>>>>> can be created in units of subsections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch introduces a new bitmap subsection_dev_map so that
>>>>>>> we can identify pfn on ZONE_DEVICE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, subsection_dev_map is used to prove that struct pages
>>>>>>> included in the subsection have been initialized since it is
>>>>>>> set after memmap_init_zone_device(). We can avoid accessing
>>>>>>> pages currently being initialized by checking subsection_dev_map.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Toshiki Fukasawa <t-fukasawa@...jp.nec.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> include/linux/mmzone.h | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> mm/memremap.c | 2 ++
>>>>>>> mm/sparse.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>> 3 files changed, 53 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/mmzone.h b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>>>>> index bda2028..11376c4 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>>>>> @@ -1174,11 +1174,17 @@ static inline unsigned long section_nr_to_pfn(unsigned long sec)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> struct mem_section_usage {
>>>>>>> DECLARE_BITMAP(subsection_map, SUBSECTIONS_PER_SECTION);
>>>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_ZONE_DEVICE
>>>>>>> + DECLARE_BITMAP(subsection_dev_map, SUBSECTIONS_PER_SECTION);
>>>>>>> +#endif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Toshiki,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is currently an effort to remove the PageReserved() flag as some
>>>>>> code is using that to detect ZONE_DEVICE. In reviewing those patches
>>>>>> we realized that what many code paths want is to detect online memory.
>>>>>> So instead of a subsection_dev_map add a subsection_online_map. That
>>>>>> way pfn_to_online_page() can reliably avoid ZONE_DEVICE ranges. I
>>>>>> otherwise question the use case for pfn_walkers to return pages for
>>>>>> ZONE_DEVICE pages, I think the skip behavior when pfn_to_online_page()
>>>>>> == false is the right behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> To be more precise, I recommended an subsection_active_map, to indicate
>>>>> which memmaps were fully initialized and can safely be touched (e.g., to
>>>>> read the zone/nid). This map would also be set when the devmem memmaps
>>>>> were initialized (race between adding memory/growing the section and
>>>>> initializing the memmap).
>>>>>
>>>>> See
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/10/10/87
>>>>>
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-driver-devel/msg130012.html
>>>>
>>>> I'm still struggling to understand the motivation of distinguishing
>>>> "active" as something distinct from "online". As long as the "online"
>>>> granularity is improved from sections down to subsections then most
>>>> code paths are good to go. The others can use get_devpagemap() to
>>>> check for ZONE_DEVICE in a race free manner as they currently do.
>>>
>>> I thought we wanted to unify access if we don’t really care about the zone as in most pfn walkers - E.g., for zone shrinking.
>>
>> Agree, when the zone does not matter, which is most cases, then
>> pfn_online() and pfn_valid() are sufficient.
Oh, and just to clarify why I proposed pfn_active(): The issue right now is that a PFN that is valid but not online could be offline memory (memmap not initialized) or ZONE_DEVICE. That‘s why I wanted to have a way to detect if a memmap was initialized, independent of the zone. That‘s important for generic PFN walkers.
>>
>>> Anyhow, a subsection online map would be a good start, we can reuse that later for ZONE_DEVICE as well.
>>
>> Cool, good to go with me sending a patch to introduce pfn_online() and
>> a corresponding subsection_map for the same?
>
> Yeah, let‘s see how this turns out and if we‘re on the same page. Thanks!
>
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