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Message-ID: <e86c01a8-8265-5e42-2fae-2c42c7e3d961@siemens.com>
Date:   Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:09:12 +0100
From:   Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@...mens.com>
To:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     Ralf Ramsauer <ralf.ramsauer@...-regensburg.de>,
        "Gupta, Pawan Kumar" <pawan.kumar.gupta@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [FYI PATCH 0/7] Mitigation for CVE-2018-12207

On 13.11.19 22:24, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 11/13/19 12:23 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 13/11/19 07:38, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> When reading MCE, error code 0150h, ie. SRAR, I was wondering if that
>>> couldn't simply be handled by the host. But I suppose the symptom of
>>> that erratum is not "just" regular recoverable MCE, rather
>>> sometimes/always an unrecoverable CPU state, despite the error code, right?
>> The erratum documentation talks explicitly about hanging the system, but
>> it's not clear if it's just a result of the OS mishandling the MCE, or
>> something worse.  So I don't know. :(  Pawan, do you?
> 
> It's "something worse".
> 
> I built a kernel module reproducer for this a long time ago.  The
> symptom I observed was the whole system hanging hard, requiring me to go
> hit the power button.  The MCE software machinery was not involved at
> all from what I could tell.

Thanks for clarifying this - too bad.

> 
> About creating a unit test, I'd be personally happy to share my
> reproducer, but I built it before this issue was root-caused.  There are
> actually quite a few underlying variants and a good unit test would make
> sure to exercise all of them.  My reproducer probably only exercised a
> single case.
> 

Would be interesting to see this. Ralf and tried something quickly, but 
there seems to be a detail missing or wrong.

Jan

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