linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] virtio-mmio: add features for virtio-mmio specification version 3

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Date:   Thu, 26 Dec 2019 20:35:25 +0800
From:   "Liu, Jiang" <gerry@...ux.alibaba.com>
To:     Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
Cc:     Zha Bin <zhabin@...ux.alibaba.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        mst@...hat.com, Sergio Lopez <slp@...hat.com>,
        virtio-dev@...ts.oasis-open.org, jing2.liu@...el.com,
        chao.p.peng@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] virtio-mmio: add features for virtio-mmio
 specification version 3



> On Dec 26, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2019/12/25 下午11:20, Liu, Jiang wrote:
>> 
>>> On Dec 25, 2019, at 6:20 PM, Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2019/12/25 上午10:50, Zha Bin wrote:
>>>> From: Liu Jiang <gerry@...ux.alibaba.com>
>>>> 
>>>> Userspace VMMs (e.g. Qemu microvm, Firecracker) take advantage of using
>>>> virtio over mmio devices as a lightweight machine model for modern
>>>> cloud. The standard virtio over MMIO transport layer only supports one
>>>> legacy interrupt, which is much heavier than virtio over PCI transport
>>>> layer using MSI. Legacy interrupt has long work path and causes specific
>>>> VMExits in following cases, which would considerably slow down the
>>>> performance:
>>>> 
>>>> 1) read interrupt status register
>>>> 2) update interrupt status register
>>>> 3) write IOAPIC EOI register
>>>> 
>>>> We proposed to update virtio over MMIO to version 3[1] to add the
>>>> following new features and enhance the performance.
>>>> 
>>>> 1) Support Message Signaled Interrupt(MSI), which increases the
>>>>    interrupt performance for virtio multi-queue devices
>>>> 2) Support per-queue doorbell, so the guest kernel may directly write
>>>>    to the doorbells provided by virtio devices.
>>>> 
>>>> The following is the network tcp_rr performance testing report, tested
>>>> with virtio-pci device, vanilla virtio-mmio device and patched
>>>> virtio-mmio device (run test 3 times for each case):
>>>> 
>>>> 	netperf -t TCP_RR -H 192.168.1.36 -l 30 -- -r 32,1024
>>>> 
>>>> 		Virtio-PCI    Virtio-MMIO   Virtio-MMIO(MSI)
>>>> 	trans/s	    9536	6939		9500
>>>> 	trans/s	    9734	7029		9749
>>>> 	trans/s	    9894	7095		9318
>>>> 
>>>> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/12/20/113
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the patch. Two questions after a quick glance:
>>> 
>>> 1) In PCI we choose to support MSI-X instead of MSI for having extra flexibility like alias, independent data and address (e.g for affinity) . Any reason for not start from MSI-X? E.g having MSI-X table and PBA (both of which looks pretty independent).
>> Hi Jason,
>> 	Thanks for reviewing patches on Christmas Day:)
>> 	The PCI MSI-x has several advantages over PCI MSI, mainly
>> 1) support 2048 vectors, much more than 32 vectors supported by MSI.
>> 2) dedicated address/data for each vector,
>> 3) per vector mask/pending bits.
>> The proposed MMIO MSI extension supports both 1) and 2),
> 
> 
> Aha right, I mis-read the patch. But more questions comes:
> 
> 1) The association between vq and MSI-X vector is fixed. This means it can't work for a device that have more than 2047 queues. We probably need something similar to virtio-pci to allow a dynamic association.
> 2) The mask and unmask control is missed
> 
> 
>>  but the extension doesn’t support 3) because
>> we noticed that the Linux virtio subsystem doesn’t really make use of interrupt masking/unmasking.
> 
> 
> Not directly used but masking/unmasking is widely used in irq subsystem which allows lots of optimizations.
> 
> 
>> 
>> On the other hand, we want to simplify VMM implementations as simple as possible, and mimicking the PCI MSI-x
>> will cause some complexity to VMM implementations.
> 
> 
> I agree to simplify VMM implementation, but it looks to me introducing masking/pending won't cost too much code in the VMM implementation. Just new type of command for VIRTIO_MMIO_MSI_COMMAND.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
>> 
>>> 2) It's better to split notify_multiplexer out of MSI support to ease the reviewers (apply to spec patch as well)
>> Great suggestion, we will try to split the patch.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Gerry
>> 
>>> Thanks