Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0jiZMtv8s7AQBz212=aEm75hniJr9jXsMma8YxhRYZFJw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 30 Jan 2020 21:50:00 +0100
From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To:     Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@...gle.com>
Cc:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Geoff Pike <gpike@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] Documentation: clarify limitations of hibernation

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 6:21 PM Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 8:28 AM Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael@...nel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 5:13 PM Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@...gle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 6:16 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri 24-01-20 08:37:12, Luigi Semenzato wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > The purpose of my documentation patch was to make it clearer that
> > > > > hibernation may fail in situations in which suspend-to-RAM works; for
> > > > > instance, when there is no swap, and anonymous pages are over 50% of
> > > > > total RAM.  I will send a new version of the patch which hopefully
> > > > > makes this clearer.
> > > >
> > > > I was under impression that s2disk is pretty much impossible without any
> > > > swap.
> > >
> > > I am not sure what you mean by "swap" here.  S2disk needs a swap
> > > partition for storing the image, but that partition is not used for
> > > regular swap.
> >
> > That's not correct.
> >
> > The swap partition (or file) used by s2disk needs to be made active
> > before it can use it and the mm subsystem is also able to use it for
> > regular swap then.
>
> OK---I had this wrong, thanks.
>
> > >  If there is no swap, but more than 50% of RAM is free
> > > or reclaimable, s2disk works fine.  If anonymous is more than 50%,
> > > hibernation can still work, but swap needs to be set up (in addition
> > > to the space for the hibernation image).  The setup is not obvious and
> > > I don't think that the documentation is clear on this.
> >
> > Well, the entire contents of RAM must be preserved, this way or
> > another, during hibernation.  That should be totally obvious to anyone
> > using it really.
>
> Yes, that's obvious.
>
> > Some of the RAM contents is copies of data already there in the
> > filesystems on persistent storage and that does not need to be saved
> > again.  Everything else must be saved and s2disk (and Linux
> > hibernation in general) uses active swap space to save these things.
> > This implies that in order to hibernate the system, you generally need
> > the amount of swap space equal to the size of RAM minus the size of
> > files mapped into memory.
> >
> > So, to be on the safe side, the total amount of swap space to be used
> > for hibernation needs to match the size of RAM (even though
> > realistically it may be smaller than that in the majority of cases).
>
> This all makes sense, but we do this:
>
> -- add resume=/dev/sdc to the command line
> -- attach a disk (/dev/sdc) with size equal to RAM
> -- mkswap /dev/sdc
> -- swapon /dev/sdc
> -- echo disk > /sys/power/state
>
> and the last operation fails with ENOMEM.  Are we doing something
> wrong?  Are we hitting some other mm bug?

I would expect this to work, so the fact that it doesn't work for you
indicates a bug somewhere or at least an assumption that doesn't hold.

Can you please remind me what you do to trigger the unexpected behavior?

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