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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:20:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] tools/memory-model/Documentation: Fix "conflict" definition
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, Marco Elver wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 19:54, Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 18:24, Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 28 Feb 2020, Marco Elver wrote:
> > >
> > > > For language-level memory consistency models that are adaptations of
> > > > data-race-free, the definition of "data race" can be summarized as
> > > > "concurrent conflicting accesses, where at least one is non-sync/plain".
> > > >
> > > > The definition of "conflict" should not include the type of access nor
> > > > whether the accesses are concurrent or not, which this patch addresses
> > > > for explanation.txt.
> > >
> > > Why shouldn't it? Can you provide any references to justify this
> > > assertion?
> >
> > The definition of "conflict" as we know it and is cited by various
> > papers on memory consistency models appeared in [1]: "Two accesses to
> > the same variable conflict if at least one is a write; two operations
> > conflict if they execute conflicting accesses."
> >
> > The LKMM as well as C11 are adaptations of data-race-free, which are
> > based on the work in [2]. Necessarily, we need both conflicting data
> > operations (plain) and synchronization operations (marked). C11's
> > definition is based on [3], which defines a "data race" as: "Two
> > memory operations conflict if they access the same memory location,
> > and at least one of them is a store, atomic store, or atomic
> > read-modify-write operation. In a sequentially consistent execution,
> > two memory operations from different threads form a type 1 data race
> > if they conflict, at least one of them is a data operation, and they
> > are adjacent in <T (i.e., they may be executed concurrently)."
> >
> > [1] D. Shasha, M. Snir, "Efficient and Correct Execution of Parallel
> > Programs that Share Memory", 1988.
> > URL: http://snir.cs.illinois.edu/listed/J21.pdf
> >
> > [2] S. Adve, "Designing Memory Consistency Models for Shared-Memory
> > Multiprocessors", 1993.
> > URL: http://sadve.cs.illinois.edu/Publications/thesis.pdf
> >
> > [3] H.-J. Boehm, S. Adve, "Foundations of the C++ Concurrency Memory
> > Model", 2008.
> > URL: https://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2008/HPL-2008-56.pdf
Okay, very good. Please include at least one of these citations in the
description of the next version of your patch.
> > > Also, note two things: (1) The existing text does not include
> > > concurrency in the definition of "conflict". (2) Your new text does
> > > include the type of access in the definition (you say that at least one
> > > of the accesses must be a write).
> >
> > Yes, "conflict" is defined in terms of "access to the same memory
> > location and at least one performs a write" (can be any operation that
> > performs a write, including RMWs etc.). It should not include
> > concurrency. We can have conflicting operations that are not
> > concurrent, but these will never be data races.
> >
> > > > The definition of "data race" remains unchanged, but the informal
> > > > definition for "conflict" is restored to what can be found in the
> > > > literature.
> > >
> > > It does not remain unchanged. You removed the portion that talks about
> > > accesses executing on different CPUs or threads. Without that
> > > restriction, you raise the nonsensical possibility that a single thread
> > > may by definition have a data race with itself (since modern CPUs use
> > > multiple-instruction dispatch, in which several instructions can
> > > execute at the same time).
> >
> > Andrea raised the point that "occur on different CPUs (or in different
> > threads on the same CPU)" can be interpreted as "in different threads
> > [even if they are serialized via some other synchronization]".
> >
> > Arguably, no sane memory model or abstract machine model permits
> > observable intra-thread concurrency of instructions in the same
> > thread. At the abstract machine level, whether or not there is true
> > parallelism shouldn't be something that the model concerns itself
> > with. Simply talking about "concurrency" is unambiguous, unless the
> > model says intra-thread concurrency is a thing.
> >
> > I can add it back if it helps make this clearer, but we need to mention both.
Then by all means, let's mention both.
> > > > Signed-by: Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt | 15 ++++++---------
> > > > 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> > > > index e91a2eb19592a..11cf89b5b85d9 100644
> > > > --- a/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> > > > +++ b/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
> > > > @@ -1986,18 +1986,15 @@ violates the compiler's assumptions, which would render the ultimate
> > > > outcome undefined.
> > > >
> > > > In technical terms, the compiler is allowed to assume that when the
> > > > -program executes, there will not be any data races. A "data race"
> > > > -occurs when two conflicting memory accesses execute concurrently;
> > > > -two memory accesses "conflict" if:
> > > > +program executes, there will not be any data races. A "data race"
> > >
> > > Unnecessary (and inconsistent with the rest of the document) whitespace
> > > change.
> >
> > Reverted.
> >
> > > > +occurs if:
> > > >
> > > > - they access the same location,
> > > > + two concurrent memory accesses "conflict";
> > > >
> > > > - they occur on different CPUs (or in different threads on the
> > > > - same CPU),
> > > > + and at least one of the accesses is a plain access;
> > > >
> > > > - at least one of them is a plain access,
> > > > -
> > > > - and at least one of them is a store.
> > > > + where two memory accesses "conflict" if they access the same
> > > > + memory location, and at least one performs a write;
> > > >
> > > > The LKMM tries to determine whether a program contains two conflicting
> > > > accesses which may execute concurrently; if it does then the LKMM says
> > >
> > > To tell the truth, the only major change I can see here (apart from the
> > > "differenct CPUs" restriction) is that you want to remove the "at least
> > > one is plain" part from the definition of "conflict" and instead make
> > > it a separate requirement for a data race. That's fine with me in
> > > principle, but there ought to be an easier way of doing it.
> >
> > Yes pretty much. The model needs to be able to talk about "conflicting
> > synchronization accesses" where all accesses are marked. Right now the
> > definition of conflict doesn't permit that.
> >
> > > Furthermore, this section of explanation.txt goes on to use the words
> > > "conflict" and "conflicting" in a way that your patch doesn't address.
> > > For example, shortly after this spot it says "Determining whether two
> > > accesses conflict is easy"; you should change it to say "Determining
> > > whether two accesses conflict and at least one of them is plain is
> > > easy" -- but this looks pretty ungainly. A better approach might be to
> > > introduce a new term, define it to mean "conflicting accesses at least
> > > one of which is plain", and then use it instead throughout.
> >
> > The definition of "conflict" as used in the later text is synonymous
> > with "data race".
>
> Correction: it's "data race" minus "concurrent" which makes things
> more difficult. In which case, fixing this becomes more difficult.
>
> > > Alternatively, you could simply leave the text as it stands and just
> > > add a parenthetical disclaimer pointing out that in the CS literature,
> > > the term "conflict" is used even when both accesses are marked, so the
> > > usage here is somewhat non-standard.
> >
> > The definition of what a "conflict" is, is decades old [1, 2]. I
> > merely thought we should avoid changing fundamental definitions that
> > have not changed in decades, to avoid confusing people. The literature
> > on memory models is confusing enough, so fundamental definitions that
> > are "common ground" shouldn't be changed if it can be avoided. I think
> > here it is pretty trivial to avoid.
All right. Here is my suggestion for a patch that does more or less
what you want. Fiddle around with it until you like the end result and
let's see what you get.
Alan
Index: usb-devel/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
===================================================================
--- usb-devel.orig/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
+++ usb-devel/tools/memory-model/Documentation/explanation.txt
@@ -1987,28 +1987,30 @@ outcome undefined.
In technical terms, the compiler is allowed to assume that when the
program executes, there will not be any data races. A "data race"
-occurs when two conflicting memory accesses execute concurrently;
-two memory accesses "conflict" if:
+occurs when two conflicting memory accesses execute concurrently and
+at least one of them is plain. Two memory accesses "conflict" if:
they access the same location,
they occur on different CPUs (or in different threads on the
same CPU),
- at least one of them is a plain access,
-
and at least one of them is a store.
-The LKMM tries to determine whether a program contains two conflicting
-accesses which may execute concurrently; if it does then the LKMM says
-there is a potential data race and makes no predictions about the
-program's outcome.
-
-Determining whether two accesses conflict is easy; you can see that
-all the concepts involved in the definition above are already part of
-the memory model. The hard part is telling whether they may execute
-concurrently. The LKMM takes a conservative attitude, assuming that
-accesses may be concurrent unless it can prove they cannot.
+We'll say that two accesses are "race candidates" if they conflict and
+at least one of them is plain. Whether or not two candidates actually
+do race in a given execution then depends on whether they are
+concurrent. The LKMM tries to determine whether a program contains
+two race candidates which may execute concurrently; if it does then
+the LKMM says there is a potential data race and makes no predictions
+about the program's outcome.
+
+Determining whether two accesses are race candidates is easy; you can
+see that all the concepts involved in the definition above are already
+part of the memory model. The hard part is telling whether they may
+execute concurrently. The LKMM takes a conservative attitude,
+assuming that accesses may be concurrent unless it can prove they
+are not.
If two memory accesses aren't concurrent then one must execute before
the other. Therefore the LKMM decides two accesses aren't concurrent
@@ -2171,8 +2173,8 @@ again, now using plain accesses for buf:
}
This program does not contain a data race. Although the U and V
-accesses conflict, the LKMM can prove they are not concurrent as
-follows:
+accesses are race candidates, the LKMM can prove they are not
+concurrent as follows:
The smp_wmb() fence in P0 is both a compiler barrier and a
cumul-fence. It guarantees that no matter what hash of
@@ -2326,12 +2328,11 @@ could now perform the load of x before t
a control dependency but no address dependency at the machine level).
Finally, it turns out there is a situation in which a plain write does
-not need to be w-post-bounded: when it is separated from the
-conflicting access by a fence. At first glance this may seem
-impossible. After all, to be conflicting the second access has to be
-on a different CPU from the first, and fences don't link events on
-different CPUs. Well, normal fences don't -- but rcu-fence can!
-Here's an example:
+not need to be w-post-bounded: when it is separated from the other
+race-candidate access by a fence. At first glance this may seem
+impossible. After all, to be race candidates the two accesses must
+be on different CPUs, and fences don't link events on different CPUs.
+Well, normal fences don't -- but rcu-fence can! Here's an example:
int x, y;
@@ -2367,7 +2368,7 @@ concurrent and there is no race, even th
isn't w-post-bounded by any marked accesses.
Putting all this material together yields the following picture. For
-two conflicting stores W and W', where W ->co W', the LKMM says the
+race-candidate stores W and W', where W ->co W', the LKMM says the
stores don't race if W can be linked to W' by a
w-post-bounded ; vis ; w-pre-bounded
@@ -2380,8 +2381,8 @@ sequence, and if W' is plain then they a
w-post-bounded ; vis ; r-pre-bounded
-sequence. For a conflicting load R and store W, the LKMM says the two
-accesses don't race if R can be linked to W by an
+sequence. For race-candidate load R and store W, the LKMM says the
+two accesses don't race if R can be linked to W by an
r-post-bounded ; xb* ; w-pre-bounded
@@ -2413,20 +2414,20 @@ is, the rules governing the memory subsy
satisfy a load request and its determination of where a store will
fall in the coherence order):
- If R and W conflict and it is possible to link R to W by one
- of the xb* sequences listed above, then W ->rfe R is not
- allowed (i.e., a load cannot read from a store that it
+ If R and W are race candidates and it is possible to link R to
+ W by one of the xb* sequences listed above, then W ->rfe R is
+ not allowed (i.e., a load cannot read from a store that it
executes before, even if one or both is plain).
- If W and R conflict and it is possible to link W to R by one
- of the vis sequences listed above, then R ->fre W is not
- allowed (i.e., if a store is visible to a load then the load
- must read from that store or one coherence-after it).
-
- If W and W' conflict and it is possible to link W to W' by one
- of the vis sequences listed above, then W' ->co W is not
- allowed (i.e., if one store is visible to a second then the
- second must come after the first in the coherence order).
+ If W and R are race candidates and it is possible to link W to
+ R by one of the vis sequences listed above, then R ->fre W is
+ not allowed (i.e., if a store is visible to a load then the
+ load must read from that store or one coherence-after it).
+
+ If W and W' are race candidates and it is possible to link W
+ to W' by one of the vis sequences listed above, then W' ->co W
+ is not allowed (i.e., if one store is visible to a second then
+ the second must come after the first in the coherence order).
This is the extent to which the LKMM deals with plain accesses.
Perhaps it could say more (for example, plain accesses might
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