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Date:   Fri, 13 Mar 2020 06:00:09 +0000
From:   Po Liu <po.liu@....com>
To:     Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@...el.com>,
        "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        "hauke.mehrtens@...el.com" <hauke.mehrtens@...el.com>,
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CC:     "simon.horman@...ronome.com" <simon.horman@...ronome.com>,
        Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.manoil@....com>,
        Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@....com>,
        Alexandru Marginean <alexandru.marginean@....com>,
        Xiaoliang Yang <xiaoliang.yang_1@....com>,
        Roy Zang <roy.zang@....com>, Mingkai Hu <mingkai.hu@....com>,
        Jerry Huang <jerry.huang@....com>, Leo Li <leoyang.li@....com>,
        Murali Karicheri <m-karicheri2@...com>,
        Ivan Khoronzhuk <ivan.khoronzhuk@...aro.org>
Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [v1,net-next, 1/2] ethtool: add setting frame
 preemption of traffic classes




Br,
Po Liu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@...el.com>
> Sent: 2020年3月13日 7:35
> To: Po Liu <po.liu@....com>; davem@...emloft.net;
> hauke.mehrtens@...el.com; gregkh@...uxfoundation.org;
> allison@...utok.net; tglx@...utronix.de; hkallweit1@...il.com;
> saeedm@...lanox.com; andrew@...n.ch; f.fainelli@...il.com;
> alexandru.ardelean@...log.com; jiri@...lanox.com; ayal@...lanox.com;
> pablo@...filter.org; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; netdev@...r.kernel.org
> Cc: simon.horman@...ronome.com; Claudiu Manoil
> <claudiu.manoil@....com>; Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@....com>;
> Alexandru Marginean <alexandru.marginean@....com>; Xiaoliang Yang
> <xiaoliang.yang_1@....com>; Roy Zang <roy.zang@....com>; Mingkai Hu
> <mingkai.hu@....com>; Jerry Huang <jerry.huang@....com>; Leo Li
> <leoyang.li@....com>; Murali Karicheri <m-karicheri2@...com>; Ivan
> Khoronzhuk <ivan.khoronzhuk@...aro.org>
> Subject: RE: [EXT] Re: [v1,net-next, 1/2] ethtool: add setting frame
> preemption of traffic classes
> 
> Caution: EXT Email
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Po Liu <po.liu@....com> writes:
> 
> > Hi Vinicius,
> >
> >
> > Br,
> > Po Liu
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@...el.com>
> >> Sent: 2020年2月22日 5:44
> >> To: Po Liu <po.liu@....com>; davem@...emloft.net;
> >> hauke.mehrtens@...el.com; gregkh@...uxfoundation.org;
> >> allison@...utok.net; tglx@...utronix.de; hkallweit1@...il.com;
> >> saeedm@...lanox.com; andrew@...n.ch; f.fainelli@...il.com;
> >> alexandru.ardelean@...log.com; jiri@...lanox.com; ayal@...lanox.com;
> >> pablo@...filter.org; linux- kernel@...r.kernel.org;
> >> netdev@...r.kernel.org
> >> Cc: simon.horman@...ronome.com; Claudiu Manoil
> >> <claudiu.manoil@....com>; Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@....com>;
> >> Alexandru Marginean <alexandru.marginean@....com>; Xiaoliang Yang
> >> <xiaoliang.yang_1@....com>; Roy Zang <roy.zang@....com>; Mingkai Hu
> >> <mingkai.hu@....com>; Jerry Huang <jerry.huang@....com>; Leo Li
> >> <leoyang.li@....com>; Po Liu <po.liu@....com>
> >> Subject: [EXT] Re: [v1,net-next, 1/2] ethtool: add setting frame
> >> preemption of traffic classes
> >>
> >> Caution: EXT Email
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Po Liu <po.liu@....com> writes:
> >>
> >> > IEEE Std 802.1Qbu standard defined the frame preemption of port
> >> > traffic classes. This patch introduce a method to set traffic
> >> > classes preemption. Add a parameter 'preemption' in struct
> >> > ethtool_link_settings. The value will be translated to a binary,
> >> > each bit represent a traffic class. Bit "1" means preemptable
> >> > traffic class. Bit "0" means express traffic class.  MSB represent
> >> > high number traffic class.
> >> >
> >> > If hardware support the frame preemption, driver could set the
> >> > ethernet device with hw_features and features with
> >> > NETIF_F_PREEMPTION when initializing the port driver.
> >> >
> >> > User can check the feature 'tx-preemption' by command 'ethtool -k
> >> > devname'. If hareware set preemption feature. The property would be
> >> > a fixed value 'on' if hardware support the frame preemption.
> >> > Feature would show a fixed value 'off' if hardware don't support
> >> > the frame preemption.
> >> >
> >> > Command 'ethtool devname' and 'ethtool -s devname preemption N'
> >> > would show/set which traffic classes are frame preemptable.
> >> >
> >> > Port driver would implement the frame preemption in the function
> >> > get_link_ksettings() and set_link_ksettings() in the struct ethtool_ops.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Any updates on this series? If you think that there's something that
> >> I could help, just tell.
> >
> > Sorry for the long time not involve the discussion. I am focus on other tsn
> code for tc flower.
> > If you can take more about this preemption serial, that would be good.
> >
> > I summary some suggestions from Marali Karicheri and Ivan Khornonzhuk
> and by you and also others:
> > - Add config the fragment size, hold advance, release advance and flags;
> >     My comments about the fragment size is in the Qbu spec limit the
> > fragment size " the minimum non-final fragment size is 64, 128, 192, or 256
> octets " this setting would affect the guardband setting for Qbv. But the
> ethtool setting could not involve this issues but by the taprio side.
> > - " Furthermore, this setting could be extend for a serial setting for mac and
> traffic class."  "Better not to using the traffic class concept."
> >    Could adding a serial setting by "ethtool --preemption xxx" or other name.
> I don' t think it is good to involve in the queue control since queues number
> may bigger than the TC number.
> > - The ethtool is the better choice to configure the preemption
> >   I agree.
> 
> Just a quick update. I was able to dedicate some time to this, and have
> something aproaching RFC-quality, but it needs more testing.
> 
> So, question, what were you using for testing this? Anything special?

I tested on www.nxp.com/LS1028A. There is nothing special for preemption. 

> 
> And btw, thanks for the summary of the discussion.


> 
> >
> > Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> --
> >> Vinicius
> 
> 
> --
> Vinicius

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