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Message-ID: <28c74819f42306e66370ddaf88f16918@kernel.org>
Date:   Wed, 27 May 2020 08:37:06 +0100
From:   Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>
To:     Gavin Shan <gshan@...hat.com>
Cc:     Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>, kvmarm@...ts.cs.columbia.edu,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        will@...nel.org, catalin.marinas@....com, james.morse@....com,
        suzuki.poulose@....com, drjones@...hat.com, eric.auger@...hat.com,
        aarcange@...hat.com, shan.gavin@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv2 7/9] kvm/arm64: Support async page fault

On 2020-05-27 05:05, Gavin Shan wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> 

[...]

>>> +struct kvm_vcpu_pv_apf_data {
>>> +	__u32	reason;
>>> +	__u8	pad[60];
>>> +	__u32	enabled;
>>> +};
>> 
>> What's all the padding for?
>> 
> 
> The padding is ensure the @reason and @enabled in different cache
> line. @reason is shared by host/guest, while @enabled is almostly
> owned by guest.

So you are assuming that a cache line is at most 64 bytes.
It is actualy implementation defined, and you can probe for it
by looking at the CTR_EL0 register. There are implementations
ranging from 32 to 256 bytes in the wild, and let's not mention
broken big-little implementations here.

[...]

>>> +bool kvm_arch_can_inject_async_page_not_present(struct kvm_vcpu 
>>> *vcpu)
>>> +{
>>> +	u64 vbar, pc;
>>> +	u32 val;
>>> +	int ret;
>>> +
>>> +	if (!(vcpu->arch.apf.control_block & KVM_ASYNC_PF_ENABLED))
>>> +		return false;
>>> +
>>> +	if (vcpu->arch.apf.send_user_only && vcpu_mode_priv(vcpu))
>>> +		return false;
>>> +
>>> +	/* Pending page fault, which ins't acknowledged by guest */
>>> +	ret = kvm_async_pf_read_cache(vcpu, &val);
>>> +	if (ret || val)
>>> +		return false;
>>> +
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * Events can't be injected through data abort because it's
>>> +	 * going to clobber ELR_EL1, which might not consued (or saved)
>>> +	 * by guest yet.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	vbar = vcpu_read_sys_reg(vcpu, VBAR_EL1);
>>> +	pc = *vcpu_pc(vcpu);
>>> +	if (pc >= vbar && pc < (vbar + vcpu->arch.apf.no_fault_inst_range))
>>> +		return false;
>> 
>> Ah, so that's when this `no_fault_inst_range` is for.
>> 
>> As-is this is not sufficient, and we'll need t be extremely careful
>> here.
>> 
>> The vectors themselves typically only have a small amount of stub 
>> code,
>> and the bulk of the non-reentrant exception entry work happens
>> elsewhere, in a mixture of assembly and C code that isn't even 
>> virtually
>> contiguous with either the vectors or itself.
>> 
>> It's possible in theory that code in modules (or perhaps in eBPF JIT'd
>> code) that isn't safe to take a fault from, so even having a 
>> contiguous
>> range controlled by the kernel isn't ideal.
>> 
>> How does this work on x86?
>> 
> 
> Yeah, here we just provide a mechanism to forbid injecting data abort. 
> The
> range is fed by guest through HVC call. So I think it's guest related 
> issue.
> You had more comments about this in PATCH[9]. I will explain a bit more 
> there.
> 
> x86 basically relies on EFLAGS[IF] flag. The async page fault can be 
> injected
> if it's on. Otherwise, it's forbidden. It's workable because exception 
> is
> special interrupt to x86 if I'm correct.
> 
>            return (vmcs_readl(GUEST_RFLAGS) & X86_EFLAGS_IF) &&
>                   !(vmcs_read32(GUEST_INTERRUPTIBILITY_INFO) &
>                         (GUEST_INTR_STATE_STI | 
> GUEST_INTR_STATE_MOV_SS));

I really wish this was relying on an architected exception delivery
mechanism that can be blocked by the guest itself (PSTATE.{I,F,A}).
Trying to guess based on the PC won't fly. But these signals are
pretty hard to multiplex with anything else. Like any form of
non-architected exception injection, I don't see a good path forward
unless we start considering something like SDEI.

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

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