linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH v1] irqchip: Add IRQCHIP_MODULE

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Message-ID: <CAGETcx9x4+6HfqGF7T2hXSpG29PKjHMZ=3UzSVM9vGrSYkfLkA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 2 Jun 2020 18:59:54 -0700
From:   Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
To:     Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>
Cc:     John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Jason Cooper <jason@...edaemon.net>,
        Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@...roid.com>,
        lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1] irqchip: Add IRQCHIP_MODULE_BEGIN/END helper macros

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 1:23 PM Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 1:48 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-04-29 20:04, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:28 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >> One thing though: this seems to be exclusively DT driven. Have you
> > >> looked into how that would look like for other firmware types such as
> > >> ACPI?
> > >
> > > I'm not very familiar with ACPI at all. I've just started to learn
> > > about how it works in the past few months poking at code when I have
> > > some time. So I haven't tried to get this to work with ACPI nor do I
> > > think I'll be able to do that anytime in the near future. I hope that
> > > doesn't block this from being used for DT based platforms.
> >
> > As long as you don't try to modularise a driver that does both DT and
> > ACPI, you'll be safe. I'm also actively trying to discourage people
> > from inventing custom irqchips on ACPI platforms (the spec almost
> > forbids them, but not quite).
> >
> > >> Another thing is the handling of dependencies. Statically built
> > >> irqchips are initialized in the right order based on the topology
> > >> described in DT, and are initialized early enough that client devices
> > >> will find their irqchip This doesn't work here, obviously.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I read that code thoroughly :)
> > >
> > >> How do you
> > >> propose we handle these dependencies, both between irqchip drivers and
> > >> client drivers?
> > >
> > > For client drivers, we don't need to do anything. The IRQ apis seem to
> > > already handle -EPROBE_DEFER correctly in this case.
> > >
> > > For irqchip drivers, the easy answer can be: Load the IRQ modules
> > > early if you make them modules.
> >
> > Uhuh. I'm afraid that's not a practical solution. We need to offer the
> > same behaviour for both and not rely on the user to understand the
> > topology of the SoC.
> >
> > > But in my case, I've been testing this with fw_devlink=on. The TL;DR
> > > of "fw_devlink=on" in this context is that the IRQ devices will get
> > > device links created based on "interrupt-parent" property. So, with
> > > the magic of device links, these IRQ devices will probe in the right
> > > topological order without any wasted deferred probe attempts. For
> > > cases without fw_devlink=on, I think I can improve
> > > platform_irqchip_probe() in my patch to check if the parent device has
> > > probed and defer if it hasn't.
> >
> > Seems like an interesting option. Two things then:
> >
> > - Can we enforce the use of fw_devlink for modularized irqchips?
>
> fw_devlink doesn't have any config and it's a command line option. So
> not sure how you can enforce that.
>
> > - For those irqchips that can be modularized, it is apparent that they
> >    should have been written as platform devices the first place. Maybe
> >    we should just do that (long term, though).
>
> I agree. If they can be platform devices, they should be. But when
> those platform device drivers are built in, you'll either need:
> 1) fw_devlink=on to enforce the topological init order
> Or
> 2) have a generic irqchip probe helper function that ensures that.
> My patch with some additional checks added to platform_irqchip_probe()
> can provide (2).
>
> In the short term, my patch series also makes it easier to convert
> existing non-platform drivers into platform drivers.
>
> So if I fix up platform_irqchip_probe() to also do -EPROBE_DEFER to
> enforce topology, will that make this patch acceptable?
>

Friendly reminder.

-Saravana