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Message-ID: <84a912e4-7063-0d9c-dc41-dadbf3807982@huawei.com>
Date:   Tue, 9 Jun 2020 09:15:11 +0800
From:   Chao Yu <yuchao0@...wei.com>
To:     Daeho Jeong <daeho43@...il.com>
CC:     <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        <linux-f2fs-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>,
        <kernel-team@...roid.com>, Daeho Jeong <daehojeong@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH] f2fs: add F2FS_IOC_TRIM_FILE ioctl

On 2020/6/8 20:44, Daeho Jeong wrote:
>>>> Since spec didn't restrict how vendor implement the erase interface, so
>>>> in order to enhance performance of discard interface, vendor could implement
>>>> it as an async one, which may not zero mapping entry(L1 table), instead, it
>>>> could set related bitmap to invalid that mapping entry, than later if device
>>>> allow user to access that invalid mapping entry, key info may be explosed,
> 
> Is it possible to access the old data of the block which has been
> discarded already?

It's due to implementation of FTL, I guess it can in theoretically.

> Since FTL already sets the related bitmap to invalid even in the async
> way, I thought
> there is no way to access old data using the same logical address.
> It's already invalidated.

In worse case, even it's invalid in bitmap, FTL can still load obsolete
mapping entry, and access old page which contains key info.

> Have you seen any storage vendor allowing this? It's awful.

Not yet, since there is no restriction on any spec/doc, I prefer to choose
to not trust vendors. :P

Thanks,

> 
> 
> 2020년 6월 8일 (월) 오후 4:43, Chao Yu <yuchao0@...wei.com>님이 작성:
>>
>> On 2020/6/8 15:19, Daeho Jeong wrote:
>>> Yes, I agree with you about each vendor has different implementation on discard.
>>> So, we might be gonna use the combination of zeroing and send discards
>>> for a more
>>> secure solution. :)
>>
>> IIRC, current solution is:
>>
>> - pin file
>> - get all block addresses of file
>> - write zero to block addresses
>> - issue discard
>>
>> Is that correct?
>>
>> Could we handle those logic (zero out & discard) in new interface
>> (may be named as {F2FS,EXT4}_IOC_SEC_TRIM_FILE)? then userspace logic
>> could be quite simple later, and also memcpy could be avoid to make
>> destruction process more efficient.
>>
>> Just raw proposal. :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>> I think we still need a discard interface to unmap from the mapping
>>> table of the storage device side.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> 2020년 6월 8일 (월) 오후 3:57, Chao Yu <yuchao0@...wei.com>님이 작성:
>>>>
>>>> On 2020/6/8 11:36, Daeho Jeong wrote:
>>>>> Yes, this is for security key destruction.
>>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK, discard will unmap the data block and, after done it,
>>>>> we can read either zero data or garbage data from that block depending
>>>>> on eMMC/UFS.
>>>>
>>>> Since spec didn't restrict how vendor implement the erase interface, so
>>>> in order to enhance performance of discard interface, vendor could implement
>>>> it as an async one, which may not zero mapping entry(L1 table), instead, it
>>>> could set related bitmap to invalid that mapping entry, than later if device
>>>> allow user to access that invalid mapping entry, key info may be explosed,
>>>>
>>>> It's completely up to how vendor implement the interface, so I think there is
>>>> still risk to use discard.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>> In a view point of read data, it might be the same with zeroing the data block.
>>>>> However, since we can even unmap that block, I believe discard is
>>>>> safer than zeroing out.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2020년 6월 8일 (월) 오전 11:46, Chao Yu <yuchao0@...wei.com>님이 작성:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2020/6/5 12:27, Daeho Jeong wrote:
>>>>>>> From: Daeho Jeong <daehojeong@...gle.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Added a new ioctl to send discard commands to whole data area of
>>>>>>> a regular file for security reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess this interface is introduced for security key destruction, if I'm
>>>>>> right, however, IIRC, discard(erase) semantics in eMMC/UFS spec won't
>>>>>> guarantee that data which was discard could be zeroed out, so after discard,
>>>>>> the key still have risk of exposure. So instead, should we use sb_issue_zeroout()?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Daeho Jeong <daehojeong@...gle.com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>  fs/f2fs/f2fs.h |   1 +
>>>>>>>  fs/f2fs/file.c | 129 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>  2 files changed, 130 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/fs/f2fs/f2fs.h b/fs/f2fs/f2fs.h
>>>>>>> index c812fb8e2d9c..9ae81d0fefa0 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/fs/f2fs/f2fs.h
>>>>>>> +++ b/fs/f2fs/f2fs.h
>>>>>>> @@ -434,6 +434,7 @@ static inline bool __has_cursum_space(struct f2fs_journal *journal,
>>>>>>>                                       _IOR(F2FS_IOCTL_MAGIC, 18, __u64)
>>>>>>>  #define F2FS_IOC_RESERVE_COMPRESS_BLOCKS                             \
>>>>>>>                                       _IOR(F2FS_IOCTL_MAGIC, 19, __u64)
>>>>>>> +#define F2FS_IOC_TRIM_FILE           _IO(F2FS_IOCTL_MAGIC, 20)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  #define F2FS_IOC_GET_VOLUME_NAME     FS_IOC_GETFSLABEL
>>>>>>>  #define F2FS_IOC_SET_VOLUME_NAME     FS_IOC_SETFSLABEL
>>>>>>> diff --git a/fs/f2fs/file.c b/fs/f2fs/file.c
>>>>>>> index dfa1ac2d751a..58507bb5649c 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/fs/f2fs/file.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/fs/f2fs/file.c
>>>>>>> @@ -3749,6 +3749,132 @@ static int f2fs_reserve_compress_blocks(struct file *filp, unsigned long arg)
>>>>>>>       return ret;
>>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +static int f2fs_trim_file(struct file *filp)
>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>> +     struct inode *inode = file_inode(filp);
>>>>>>> +     struct f2fs_sb_info *sbi = F2FS_I_SB(inode);
>>>>>>> +     struct address_space *mapping = inode->i_mapping;
>>>>>>> +     struct bio *bio = NULL;
>>>>>>> +     struct block_device *prev_bdev = NULL;
>>>>>>> +     loff_t file_size;
>>>>>>> +     pgoff_t index, pg_start = 0, pg_end;
>>>>>>> +     block_t prev_block = 0, len = 0;
>>>>>>> +     int ret = 0;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     if (!f2fs_hw_support_discard(sbi))
>>>>>>> +             return -EOPNOTSUPP;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     if (!S_ISREG(inode->i_mode) || f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode) ||
>>>>>>> +                     f2fs_compressed_file(inode))
>>>>>>> +             return -EINVAL;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     if (f2fs_readonly(sbi->sb))
>>>>>>> +             return -EROFS;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     ret = mnt_want_write_file(filp);
>>>>>>> +     if (ret)
>>>>>>> +             return ret;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     inode_lock(inode);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     file_size = i_size_read(inode);
>>>>>>> +     if (!file_size)
>>>>>>> +             goto err;
>>>>>>> +     pg_end = (pgoff_t)round_up(file_size, PAGE_SIZE) >> PAGE_SHIFT;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     ret = f2fs_convert_inline_inode(inode);
>>>>>>> +     if (ret)
>>>>>>> +             goto err;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     down_write(&F2FS_I(inode)->i_gc_rwsem[WRITE]);
>>>>>>> +     down_write(&F2FS_I(inode)->i_mmap_sem);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     ret = filemap_write_and_wait(mapping);
>>>>>>> +     if (ret)
>>>>>>> +             goto out;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     truncate_inode_pages(mapping, 0);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     for (index = pg_start; index < pg_end;) {
>>>>>>> +             struct dnode_of_data dn;
>>>>>>> +             unsigned int end_offset;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +             set_new_dnode(&dn, inode, NULL, NULL, 0);
>>>>>>> +             ret = f2fs_get_dnode_of_data(&dn, index, LOOKUP_NODE);
>>>>>>> +             if (ret)
>>>>>>> +                     goto out;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +             end_offset = ADDRS_PER_PAGE(dn.node_page, inode);
>>>>>>> +             if (pg_end < end_offset + index)
>>>>>>> +                     end_offset = pg_end - index;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +             for (; dn.ofs_in_node < end_offset;
>>>>>>> +                             dn.ofs_in_node++, index++) {
>>>>>>> +                     struct block_device *cur_bdev;
>>>>>>> +                     block_t blkaddr = f2fs_data_blkaddr(&dn);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +                     if (__is_valid_data_blkaddr(blkaddr)) {
>>>>>>> +                             if (!f2fs_is_valid_blkaddr(F2FS_I_SB(inode),
>>>>>>> +                                     blkaddr, DATA_GENERIC_ENHANCE)) {
>>>>>>> +                                     ret = -EFSCORRUPTED;
>>>>>>> +                                     goto out;
>>>>>>> +                             }
>>>>>>> +                     } else
>>>>>>> +                             continue;
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +                     cur_bdev = f2fs_target_device(sbi, blkaddr, NULL);
>>>>>>> +                     if (f2fs_is_multi_device(sbi)) {
>>>>>>> +                             int i = f2fs_target_device_index(sbi, blkaddr);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +                             blkaddr -= FDEV(i).start_blk;
>>>>>>> +                     }
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +                     if (len) {
>>>>>>> +                             if (prev_bdev == cur_bdev &&
>>>>>>> +                                     blkaddr == prev_block + len) {
>>>>>>> +                                     len++;
>>>>>>> +                             } else {
>>>>>>> +                                     ret = __blkdev_issue_discard(prev_bdev,
>>>>>>> +                                             SECTOR_FROM_BLOCK(prev_block),
>>>>>>> +                                             SECTOR_FROM_BLOCK(len),
>>>>>>> +                                             GFP_NOFS, 0, &bio);
>>>>>>> +                                     if (ret)
>>>>>>> +                                             goto out;
>>>>>>> +> +                                  len = 0;
>>>>>>> +                             }
>>>>>>> +                     }
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +                     if (!len) {
>>>>>>> +                             prev_bdev = cur_bdev;
>>>>>>> +                             prev_block = blkaddr;
>>>>>>> +                             len = 1;
>>>>>>> +                     }
>>>>>>> +             }
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +             f2fs_put_dnode(&dn);
>>>>>>> +     }
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     if (len)
>>>>>>> +             ret = __blkdev_issue_discard(prev_bdev,
>>>>>>> +                                     SECTOR_FROM_BLOCK(prev_block),
>>>>>>> +                                     SECTOR_FROM_BLOCK(len),
>>>>>>> +                                     GFP_NOFS, 0, &bio);
>>>>>>> +out:
>>>>>>> +     if (bio) {
>>>>>>> +             ret = submit_bio_wait(bio);
>>>>>>> +             bio_put(bio);
>>>>>>> +     }
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     up_write(&F2FS_I(inode)->i_mmap_sem);
>>>>>>> +     up_write(&F2FS_I(inode)->i_gc_rwsem[WRITE]);
>>>>>>> +err:
>>>>>>> +     inode_unlock(inode);
>>>>>>> +     mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +     return ret;
>>>>>>> +}
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>  long f2fs_ioctl(struct file *filp, unsigned int cmd, unsigned long arg)
>>>>>>>  {
>>>>>>>       if (unlikely(f2fs_cp_error(F2FS_I_SB(file_inode(filp)))))
>>>>>>> @@ -3835,6 +3961,8 @@ long f2fs_ioctl(struct file *filp, unsigned int cmd, unsigned long arg)
>>>>>>>               return f2fs_release_compress_blocks(filp, arg);
>>>>>>>       case F2FS_IOC_RESERVE_COMPRESS_BLOCKS:
>>>>>>>               return f2fs_reserve_compress_blocks(filp, arg);
>>>>>>> +     case F2FS_IOC_TRIM_FILE:
>>>>>>> +             return f2fs_trim_file(filp);
>>>>>>>       default:
>>>>>>>               return -ENOTTY;
>>>>>>>       }
>>>>>>> @@ -4004,6 +4132,7 @@ long f2fs_compat_ioctl(struct file *file, unsigned int cmd, unsigned long arg)
>>>>>>>       case F2FS_IOC_GET_COMPRESS_BLOCKS:
>>>>>>>       case F2FS_IOC_RELEASE_COMPRESS_BLOCKS:
>>>>>>>       case F2FS_IOC_RESERVE_COMPRESS_BLOCKS:
>>>>>>> +     case F2FS_IOC_TRIM_FILE:
>>>>>>>               break;
>>>>>>>       default:
>>>>>>>               return -ENOIOCTLCMD;
>>>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>> .
>>>
> .
> 

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