lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <CAJF2gTTCEEoP3a9i_REXPwkJZ4Si_hYfjk_hwqHxkyfgw_xBLw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:55:35 +0800
From:   Guo Ren <guoren@...nel.org>
To:     Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Cc:     Palmer Dabbelt <palmerdabbelt@...gle.com>,
        Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>,
        Anup Patel <anup@...infault.org>,
        Greentime Hu <greentime.hu@...ive.com>,
        Zong Li <zong.li@...ive.com>,
        linux-riscv <linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-csky@...r.kernel.org, Guo Ren <guoren@...ux.alibaba.com>,
        Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@...il.com>,
        Greentime Hu <green.hu@...il.com>,
        Atish Patra <atish.patra@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] riscv: Add STACKPROTECTOR supported

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 4:31 AM Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 10:16:14PM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 2:53 PM Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 06:24:15AM +0000, guoren@...nel.org wrote:
> > > > +static __always_inline void boot_init_stack_canary(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > +     unsigned long canary;
> > > > +
> > > > +     /* Try to get a semi random initial value. */
> > > > +     get_random_bytes(&canary, sizeof(canary));
> > > > +     canary ^= LINUX_VERSION_CODE;
> > > > +     canary &= CANARY_MASK;
> > >
> > > Does riscv have any kind of instruction counters or other trivial timers
> > > that could be mixed in here? (e.g. x86's TSC)
> > Do you mean:
> >   get_random_bytes(&canary, sizeof(canary));
> > + canary += get_cycles64() + (get_cycles64() << 32UL);
> >   canary ^= LINUX_VERSION_CODE;
> >   canary &= CANARY_MASK;
> >
> > Ok ?
>
> Sure -- I assume get_cycles64() is architecturally "simple"? (i.e. it
> doesn't require that the entire time-keeping subsystem has started?)
Yes, it's just a csr read. But it's necessary? get_random_bytes should enough.

>
> > >
> > > > +
> > > > +     current->stack_canary = canary;
> > > > +     __stack_chk_guard = current->stack_canary;
> > >
> > > What's needed for riscv to support a per-task canary? (e.g. x86's TLS or
> > > arm64's register-specific methods)
> > Some archs change __stack_chk_guard in _switch_to of entry.S, but it
> > depends on !CONFIG_SMP.
>
> Oh, funny. I hadn't actually noticed that logic for the !CONFIG_SMP
> cases. I see to problem with that, but the more important case, I think
> is the per-task canaries.
Maybe some race condition problems. When canary changed the in the
switch to, but other CPUs still get that value concurrently.

>
> > #if defined(CONFIG_STACKPROTECTOR) && !defined(CONFIG_SMP)
> >         get  value  from next_task->stack_canary
> >         store  value to __stack_chk_guard
> > #endif
> >
> > It's a so limitation solution for per-task canary, so I didn't copy it
> > into riscv?
>
> Right -- it's a limited solution. On the other had, is !CONFIG_SMP
> expected to be a common config for riscv? If so, it's worth adding. If
> not, I'd say skip it. (Though it looks very simple to do...)
CONFIG_SMP is mostly default for me and let's talk about arm64/x86
per-task solution. That is the right way.


-- 
Best Regards
 Guo Ren

ML: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-csky/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ