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Message-ID: <20200715072112.GA231369@debian-buster-darwi.lab.linutronix.de>
Date:   Wed, 15 Jul 2020 09:21:12 +0200
From:   "Ahmed S. Darwish" <a.darwish@...utronix.de>
To:     Leo Yan <leo.yan@...aro.org>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Paul Cercueil <paul@...pouillou.net>,
        "Ben Dooks (Codethink)" <ben.dooks@...ethink.co.uk>,
        Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
        Kan Liang <kan.liang@...ux.intel.com>, jogness@...utronix.de,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/6] sched_clock: Expose struct clock_read_data

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 02:54:07PM +0800, Leo Yan wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 07:56:50AM +0200, Ahmed S. Darwish wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 10:05:07AM +0800, Leo Yan wrote:
> > > From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
> > >
> > ...
> > >
> > > Provide struct clock_read_data and two (seqcount) helpers so that
> > > architectures (arm64 in specific) can expose the numbers to userspace.
> > >
> > ...
> > >
> > > +struct clock_read_data *sched_clock_read_begin(unsigned int *seq)
> > > +{
> > > +	*seq = raw_read_seqcount(&cd.seq);
> > > +	return cd.read_data + (*seq & 1);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > ...
> >
> > Hmm, this seqcount_t is actually a latch seqcount. I know the original
> > code also used raw_read_seqcount(), but while at it, let's use the
> > proper read API for seqcount_t latchers: raw_read_seqcount_latch().
>
> Good point.  To be honest, I think myself cannot give a good judgement
> for memory barrier related thing :)
>
> I read a bit the document for the latch technique [1], comparing to
> raw_read_seqcount_latch(), the function raw_read_seqcount() contains
> smp_rmb(), IIUC, the *read* memory barrier is used to support for
> kcsan.
>

The smp_rmb() has no relation whatsoever to KCSAN. It pairs with the
write memory barriers in the seqcount_t write path.

AFAIK, PeterZ is the author of this patch, so let's wait for his input
here.

Thanks,

--
Ahmed S. Darwish
Linutronix GmbH

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