linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] MIPS: Provide Kconfig option for default IEEE754 conformance mode

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <ceb71bef-b3e6-68ce-df80-bcff92085e66@flygoat.com>
Date:   Mon, 3 Aug 2020 17:01:44 +0800
From:   Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@...goat.com>
To:     "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@....com>,
        Serge Semin <Sergey.Semin@...kalelectronics.ru>
Cc:     Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@...il.com>, linux-mips@...r.kernel.org,
        Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@...ha.franken.de>,
        Paul Burton <paulburton@...nel.org>,
        Huacai Chen <chenhc@...ote.com>,
        Zhou Yanjie <zhouyanjie@...o.com>,
        周琰杰 (Zhou Yanjie) 
        <zhouyanjie@...yeetech.com>,
        Liangliang Huang <huanglllzu@...il.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@...ux-mips.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MIPS: Provide Kconfig option for default IEEE754
 conformance mode



在 2020/8/3 上午5:46, Maciej W. Rozycki 写道:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2020, Serge Semin wrote:
>
>>> Requested by downstream distros, a Kconfig option for default
>>> IEEE754 conformance mode allows them to set their mode to
>>> relaxed by default.
>> That's what should have been here in the first place. Thanks!
>   Well, originally plans were there to have NaN interlinking implemented
> and no such mess or desire for hacks like one here would result.  Cf.:
>
> <https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2015-11/msg00068.html>,
> <https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2016-05/msg00137.html>,
>
> and then:
>
> <https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/16/386>,
> <https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2015-11/msg00485.html>,
> <https://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2015-11/msg00170.html>,
> <https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-11/msg03241.html>.
>
> You could well pick this work up and complete it if you like.  Final
> conclusions for further work were made here:
>
> <https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2016-11/msg00027.html>,
> <https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2017-08/msg00260.html>,
> <https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2017-10/msg00142.html>.
>
>   In the relaxed mode math programs may produce wrong results unless you
> rebuild all your software for the correct NaN mode for the hardware used

Unfortunately most of the hardware guys didn't understood the difficulty 
here.
They decided to implement their hardware (P5600 & LS3A4000) as NaN2008 only.

I was thinking about let Kernel drop SIGFPE exception was caused by 
mismatched NaN,
as most applications don't rely on signaling NaN, but it is still a 
dirty hack. Not a good
idea in general.

Thanks.

- Jiaxun

> (in which case you don't need the relaxed setting in the first place).

>
>    Maciej