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Message-ID: <CAPTae5LBW=4bYkP2kaRTmdd0EcVxHD8PNVxpX7S6D4GCmVS4bg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 18:08:33 -0700
From: Badhri Jagan Sridharan <badhri@...gle.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
Cc: Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@...ux.intel.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
USB <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] usb: typec: tcpm: Fix TDA 2.2.1.1 and TDA 2.2.1.2 failures
Yes I did ! https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/8/11/788 !
For me gmail is grouping V1 and V2 patches in the same thread so
thought you saw the v2 patch :P
Thanks,
Badhri
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:36 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> wrote:
>
> On 8/11/20 4:21 PM, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote:
> > Thanks Guenter ! However I don't see a reviewed-by tag :)
> >
>
> Confused. Did you send a v2 with the changes we discussed ?
> I didn't see that.
>
> Thanks,
> Guenter
>
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 1:18 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/11/20 12:39 PM, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 11:45 AM Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 11:24:07AM -0700, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 6:51 PM Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 8/10/20 6:11 PM, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote:
> >>>>>>> >From the spec:
> >>>>>>> "7.1.5 Response to Hard Resets
> >>>>>>> Hard Reset Signaling indicates a communication failure has occurred and
> >>>>>>> the Source Shall stop driving VCONN, Shall remove Rp from the VCONN pin
> >>>>>>> and Shall drive VBUS to vSafe0V as shown in Figure 7-9. The USB connection
> >>>>>>> May reset during a Hard Reset since the VBUS voltage will be less than
> >>>>>>> vSafe5V for an extended period of time. After establishing the vSafe0V
> >>>>>>> voltage condition on VBUS, the Source Shall wait tSrcRecover before
> >>>>>>> re-applying VCONN and restoring VBUS to vSafe5V. A Source Shall conform
> >>>>>>> to the VCONN timing as specified in [USB Type-C 1.3]."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Badhri Jagan Sridharan <badhri@...gle.com>
> >>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>> drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c | 16 +++++++++++++---
> >>>>>>> 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c b/drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
> >>>>>>> index 3ef37202ee37..e41c4e5d3c71 100644
> >>>>>>> --- a/drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
> >>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/usb/typec/tcpm/tcpm.c
> >>>>>>> @@ -3372,13 +3372,19 @@ static void run_state_machine(struct tcpm_port *port)
> >>>>>>> tcpm_set_state(port, SNK_HARD_RESET_SINK_OFF, 0);
> >>>>>>> break;
> >>>>>>> case SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_OFF:
> >>>>>>> - tcpm_set_vconn(port, true);
> >>>>>>> + /*
> >>>>>>> + * 7.1.5 Response to Hard Resets
> >>>>>>> + * Hard Reset Signaling indicates a communication failure has occurred and the
> >>>>>>> + * Source Shall stop driving VCONN, Shall remove Rp from the VCONN pin and Shall
> >>>>>>> + * drive VBUS to vSafe0V as shown in Figure 7-9.
> >>>>>>> + */
> >>>>>>> + tcpm_set_vconn(port, false);
> >>>>>>> tcpm_set_vbus(port, false);
> >>>>>>> tcpm_set_roles(port, port->self_powered, TYPEC_SOURCE,
> >>>>>>> tcpm_data_role_for_source(port));
> >>>>>>> - tcpm_set_state(port, SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_ON, PD_T_SRC_RECOVER);
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am a bit concerned about this. If I understand correctly, it means that
> >>>>>> we won't turn VBUS back on unless a SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_OFF PD event is received.
> >>>>>> Is that correct ? What happens if that event is never received ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Guenter
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The term PD event is a little ambiguous to me. Trying to summarize the workflow.
> >>>>> Lower level tcpc driver would have to call tcpm_vbus_change which
> >>>>> would in-turn trigger TCPM_VBUS_EVENT
> >>>>> and queries port->tcpc->get_vbus to get the vbus status. It is not
> >>>>> really a PD protocol driven event hence the
> >>>>> confusion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "What happens if that event is never received ?"
> >>>>> Yeah TCPM would be in SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_OFF till the tcpc calls the
> >>>>> tcpm_vbus_change.
> >>>>> Do you suspect that existing tcpc would not have the capability to
> >>>>> monitor vbus status while sourcing and call tcpm_vbus_change?
> >>>>>
> >>>> That, or the driver might be buggy, or the hardware does't signal a status
> >>>> update, or the update gets lost. I think we should have some backup,
> >>>> to trigger if the event is not received in a reasonable amout of time.
> >>>> I don't know if the specification has some kind of maximum limit. If
> >>>> not, we should still have something
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Guenter
> >>>
> >>> Got it ! The specification actually has a bound for vbus off.
> >>> tSafe0V - Time to reach vSafe0V max - 650ms. (PD_T_SAFE_0V).
> >>> So I will bound it to that.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Excellent. Thanks a lot for looking into this!
> >>
> >> Guenter
> >>
> >>> >From Table 7-12 Sequence Description for a Source Initiated Hard Reset:
> >>> 4.Policy Engine waits tPSHardReset after sending Hard Reset Signaling
> >>> and then tells the Device Policy Manager to instruct the power supply
> >>> to perform a Hard Reset. The transition to vSafe0V Shall occur within
> >>> tSafe0V (t2).
> >>> 5 After tSrcRecover the Source applies power to VBUS in an attempt to
> >>> re-establish communication with the Sink and resume USB Default
> >>> Operation. The transition to vSafe5V Shall occur within tSrcTurnOn
> >>> (t4).
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Badhri
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Badhri
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> break;
> >>>>>>> case SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_ON:
> >>>>>>> + tcpm_set_vconn(port, true);
> >>>>>>> tcpm_set_vbus(port, true);
> >>>>>>> port->tcpc->set_pd_rx(port->tcpc, true);
> >>>>>>> tcpm_set_attached_state(port, true);
> >>>>>>> @@ -3944,7 +3950,11 @@ static void _tcpm_pd_vbus_off(struct tcpm_port *port)
> >>>>>>> tcpm_set_state(port, SNK_HARD_RESET_WAIT_VBUS, 0);
> >>>>>>> break;
> >>>>>>> case SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_OFF:
> >>>>>>> - tcpm_set_state(port, SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_ON, 0);
> >>>>>>> + /*
> >>>>>>> + * After establishing the vSafe0V voltage condition on VBUS, the Source Shall wait
> >>>>>>> + * tSrcRecover before re-applying VCONN and restoring VBUS to vSafe5V.
> >>>>>>> + */
> >>>>>>> + tcpm_set_state(port, SRC_HARD_RESET_VBUS_ON, PD_T_SRC_RECOVER);
> >>>>>>> break;
> >>>>>>> case HARD_RESET_SEND:
> >>>>>>> break;
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
>
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