linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v12 8/8] x86: Disallow vsyscall emulation when CET is enabled

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Message-ID: <CAMe9rOrHCE51dKSz3fPXG-ORNim_Ok7rtwQxnudH9et4ecHBRA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:06:02 -0700
From:   "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@...il.com>
To:     Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@...el.com>,
        "the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@...nel.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 8/8] x86: Disallow vsyscall emulation when CET is enabled

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 2:00 PM Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz> wrote:
>
> On Fri 2020-09-18 12:32:57, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 9/18/20 12:23 PM, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
> > > Emulation of the legacy vsyscall page is required by some programs
> > > built before 2013.  Newer programs after 2013 don't use it.
> > > Disable vsyscall emulation when Control-flow Enforcement (CET) is
> > > enabled to enhance security.
> >
> > How does this "enhance security"?
> >
> > What is the connection between vsyscall emulation and CET?
>
> Boom.
>
> We don't break compatibility by default, and you should not tell
> people to enable CET by default if you plan to do this.
>

Nothing will be broken.   CET enabled applications don't use/need
vsyscall emulation.

-- 
H.J.