linux-kernel - Re: [linux-safety] [PATCH] usb: host: ehci-sched: add comment about find

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <CADVatmN7d+Oy5iHTUK=azHsvFq9+s0rdcjUTz5m_K4Xrf+JvZA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 12 Oct 2020 16:24:16 +0100
From:   Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@...il.com>
To:     Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@...il.com>
Cc:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-safety@...ts.elisa.tech, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [linux-safety] [PATCH] usb: host: ehci-sched: add comment about
 find_tt() not returning error

Hi Lukas,

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 3:11 PM Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@...il.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, 11 Oct 2020, Sudip Mukherjee wrote:
>
> > Add a comment explaining why find_tt() will not return error even though
> > find_tt() is checking for NULL and other errors.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Sudip Mukherjee <sudipm.mukherjee@...il.com>
>
> I get the intent of the comment but there is a large risk that somebody
> could remove the find_tt() call before the calling the function and there
> is no chance to then see later that the comment is actually wrong.

Removing the find_tt() will mean a major rework of the code.

>
> I guess you want to link this comment here to a code line above and
> request anyone touching the line above to reconsider the comment then.
>
> But there is no 'concept' for such kind of requests to changes and
> comments.
>
> So, the comment is true now, but might be true or wrong later.

If it is wrong later due to some code change then I guess someone will
need to send a patch to correct the comment.

>
> I am wondering if such comment deserves to be included if we cannot check
> its validity later...

I am failing to understand why will you not be able to check its
validity later. You just need to read the code to check it.

>
> I would prefer a simple tool that could check that your basic assumption
> on the code is valid and if it the basic assumption is still valid,
> just shut up any stupid tool that simply does not get that these calls
> here cannot return any error.
>
> We encountered this issue because of clang analyzer complaining, but it is
> clear that it is a false positive of that (smart but) incomplete tool.

I dont think it is a false positive. The error return value is not
checked and that is true. Only that it is not applicable because of
the way the coding is done.

>
> Do you intend to add comment for all false positives from all tools or are
> we going to find a better solution than that?

I think tools will always give you some false positives and you will
need to read the code to know if its false positive or not. I dont
think there is any tool yet which will only give true positives.


-- 
Regards
Sudip