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Date:   Wed, 25 Nov 2020 22:05:30 -0500
From:   Carlos O'Donell <>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <>,
        Zack Weinberg <>, Cyril Hrubis <>
Cc:     Dmitry Safonov <>, Andrei Vagin <>,
        GNU C Library <>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
        Petr Špaček <>
Subject: Re: [Y2038][time namespaces] Question regarding CLOCK_REALTIME
 support plans in Linux time namespaces

On 11/25/20 7:17 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Carlos, Petr,
> On Wed, Nov 25 2020 at 15:37, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On 11/19/20 7:14 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> So from my point of view asking for distorted time still _is_ a request
>>> for ponies.
>> I'm happy if you say it's more work than the value it provides.
> Thinking more about it. Would a facility which provides:
> where you can go wild on setting time to whatever you want solve
> your problem?

We would need a way to inject CLOCK_FAKE_* in lieu of the real

There are only two straight forward ways I know how to do that
and they aren't very useful e.g. alternative build, syscall hot-path
debug code to alter the constant.

We might write a syscall interception framework using seccomp
and SECCOMP_RET_TRACE, but that involves ptrace'ing the process
under test, and is equivalent to a micro-sandbox. I'm not against
that idea for testing; we would test what we ship.

I don't think eBPF can modify the incoming arguments.

I need to go check if systemtap can modify incoming arguments;
I've never done that in any script.

In what other ways can we inject the new constants?


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