linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2] docs: proc.rst: meminfo: briefly describe gaps in memory accounting

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Message-ID: <YH7qhwhbLt0yT3Zy@kernel.org>
Date:   Tue, 20 Apr 2021 17:51:51 +0300
From:   Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>
To:     Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
Cc:     Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
        Mike Rapoport <rppt@...ux.ibm.com>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs: proc.rst: meminfo: briefly describe gaps in
 memory accounting

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 02:24:30PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 03:13:54PM +0300, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > Add a paragraph that explains that it may happen that the counters in
> > /proc/meminfo do not add up to the overall memory usage.
> 
> ... that is, the sum may be lower because memory is allocated for other
> purposes that is not reported here, right?
> 
> Is it ever possible for it to be higher?  Maybe due to a race when
> sampling the counters?
> 
> >  Provides information about distribution and utilization of memory.  This
> > -varies by architecture and compile options.  The following is from a
> > -16GB PIII, which has highmem enabled.  You may not have all of these fields.
> > +varies by architecture and compile options. Please note that it may happen
> > +that the memory accounted here does not add up to the overall memory usage
> > +and the difference for some workloads can be substantial. In many cases there
> > +are other means to find out additional memory using subsystem specific
> > +interfaces, for instance /proc/net/sockstat for TCP memory allocations.
> 
> How about just:
> 
> +varies by architecture and compile options.  The memory reported here
> +may not add up to the overall memory usage and the difference for some
> +workloads can be substantial. [...]

I like this. I also for adding a sentence about overlap in the counters:

+varies by architecture and compile options.  Some of the counters reported
+here overlap.  The memory reported by the non overlapping counters may not
+add up to the overall memory usage and the difference for some workloads
can be substantial. [...]
 
> But I'd like to be a bit more explicit about the reason, hence my question
> above to be sure I understand.
> 
> It's also not entirely clear which of the fields in meminfo can be
> usefully summed.  VmallocTotal is larger than MemTotal, for example.
> But I know that KernelStack is allocated through vmalloc these days,
> and I don't know whether VmallocUsed includes KernelStack or whether I
> can sum them.  Similarly, is Mlocked a subset of Unevictable?
> 
> There is some attempt at explaining how these numbers fit together, but
> it's outdated, and doesn't include Mlocked, Unevictable or KernelStack

Fixing the outdated docs and adding more detailed explanation is obviously
welcome, but it's beyond the scope of the current patch.

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Mike.