lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <YUDTCgEOZ3JOMSl7@zn.tnic>
Date:   Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:51:22 +0200
From:   Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
To:     Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Marcus Rückert <mrueckert@...e.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/umip: Add a umip= cmdline switch

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 02:38:36PM -0700, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> That is right. Although, I am not sure programs you can have in
> the same machine that also want to use UMIP-protected instructions.

Sure, another game. :-P

But srsly, looking at those two:

        umip_pr_warn(regs, "%s instruction cannot be used by applications.\n",
                        umip_insns[umip_inst]);

        umip_pr_warn(regs, "For now, expensive software emulation returns the result.\n");

Why are they there at all?

I mean, I can hardly imagine userspace doing anything about them.

They're all likely old, arcane applications or games run in wine which
people have no access to the source code anyway so come to think of it,
the once thing is starting to make more sense to me now.

Sure, that:

        umip_pr_err(regs, "segfault in emulation. error%x\n",
                    X86_PF_USER | X86_PF_WRITE);

should be issued unconditionally but I'm wondering if those warning
messages are needed at all. And if not, I should probably simply rip
them all out.

Or at least silence them by default and flip the cmdline switch logic to
enable them for users who are interested in those things but they should
be silent by default.

I.e., you'd need to supply

	umip=warnings_on

on the cmdline to actually see them.

Hmmm?

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ