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Message-ID: <CAL_Jsq+D2nyzrvWE7vdbQFB680+cmx=FfFMqHL0s=tkTSduz2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 14 Sep 2021 11:52:38 -0500
From:   Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>
To:     Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Cc:     Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
        Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
        Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
        Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>,
        Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@...roid.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/5] driver core: Add fw_devlink.debug command line
 boolean parameter

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:44 AM Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch> wrote:
>
> > I did think of this, but the problem is that dynamic debug logs can
> > get compiled out (when DYNAMIC_DEBUG isn't set). I think debugging of
> > fw_devlink needs to be possible without having to recompile the
> > kernel. So in a sense similar to how initcall_debug works today.
>
> My off the shelf Debian kernel has it enabled. Maybe you can check
> other mainline distributions and see if it is enabled by default.

Right, I would expect users that can't rebuild their kernel easily
would have it enabled.

> You are also on a slippery path. You argue this is needed all the time
> and add a custom knob. Somebody else adds a new feature which they
> also argue always needs bug, and add there own custom knob. We soon
> have lots of custom knobs, each doing it slightly differently, in
> different places. Chaos. So you need a really good argument why your
> code really is special.
>
> I would suggest you start with dynamic debug, and collect some
> statistics of how often you need to ask people to recompile their
> kernel.

I agree.

What would be nice is documenting what needs to be set for devlink.
What I used was just 'dyndbg="file drivers/base/core.c +p"'

Rob

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