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Date:   Fri, 1 Oct 2021 11:22:33 -0700
From:   Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>
To:     James Clark <james.clark@....com>
Cc:     Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>, Leo Yan <leo.yan@...aro.org>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Ian Rogers <irogers@...gle.com>,
        Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] perf arm-spe: Track task context switch for cpu-mode events

On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 3:44 AM James Clark <james.clark@....com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 30/09/2021 19:47, Stephane Eranian wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 9:02 AM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Leo,
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 7:23 AM Leo Yan <leo.yan@...aro.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Namhyung,
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 02:01:21PM -0700, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> >>>
> >>> [...]
> >>>
> >>>>> Before we had discussion for enabling PID/TID for SPE samples; in the patch
> >>>>> set [1], patches 07, 08 set sample's pid/tid based on the Arm SPE context
> >>>>> packets.  To enable hardware tracing context ID, you also needs to enable
> >>>>> kernel config CONFIG_PID_IN_CONTEXTIDR.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for sharing this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah I also look at the context info but having a dependency on a kconfig
> >>>> looks limiting its functionality.  Also the kconfig says it has some overhead
> >>>> in the critical path (even if perf is not running, right?) - but not sure how
> >>>> much it can add.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, after enabled config PID_IN_CONTEXTIDR, the kernel will always
> >>> write PID into the system register CONTEXTIDR during process context
> >>> switching.  Please see the flow:
> >>>
> >>>   __switch_to() (arch/arm64/kernel/process.c)
> >>>     `-> contextidr_thread_switch(next)
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info.  I assume it's a light-weight operation.
> >>
> >>
> > I'd like to understand why it was believed that having SPE record to
> > PID could be too expensive
> > vs. what I am seeing with all the tracking of context switches and the
> > volume of data this generates.
> >
>
> I think the justification about it being expensive is that when PID_IN_CONTEXTIDR
> is set, there is an extra few instructions to write that value on every context
> switch, whether SPE is enabled or not. So it has a system wide impact.

You could use a static key to make this conditional to having SPE
running on the CPU like
it is done for other PMU features on other architectures.

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