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Date:   Fri, 15 Oct 2021 13:33:39 +0100
From:   German Gomez <german.gomez@....com>
To:     Leo Yan <leo.yan@...aro.org>
Cc:     Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org,
        John Garry <john.garry@...wei.com>,
        Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@...aro.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Mike Leach <mike.leach@...aro.org>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, coresight@...ts.linaro.org,
        James Clark <James.Clark@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] perf arm-spe: Implement find_snapshot callback

Hi Leo,

Would you be ok with the current patch the way it is? In case it's of
any help, I'm sharing the testing steps that James and I went through
when testing this internally, if you want to add to it

- Test that only a portion of the buffer is saved until there is a wraparound

$ ./perf record -vvv -e arm_spe/period=148576/u -S -- taskset --cpu-list 0 stress --cpu 1 & while true; do sleep 0.2; killall -s USR2 perf; done

- Test snapshot mode in CPU mode

$ sudo ./perf record -vvv -C 0 -e arm_spe/period=148576/u -S -- taskset --cpu-list 0 stress --cpu 1 &

- Test that auxtrace buffers correspond to an aux record
- Test snapshot default sizes in sudo and user modes
- Test small snapshot size

$ ./perf record -vvv -e arm_spe/period=148576/u -S1000 -m16,16 -- taskset --cpu-list 0 stress --cpu 1 &

If there are any concerns with the patches, please let me know and I
will try to address them.

Thanks,
German

On 13/10/2021 08:51, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:39:16AM +0800, Leo Yan wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 04:55:37PM +0100, German Gomez wrote:
>>> On 06/10/2021 10:51, Leo Yan wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 10:35:20AM +0100, German Gomez wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>>> So simply say, I think the head pointer monotonically increasing is
>>>>>> the right thing to do in Arm SPE driver.
>>>>> I will talk to James about how we can proceed on this.
>>>> Thanks!
>>> I took this offline with James and, though it looks possible to patch
>>> the SPE driver to have a monotonically increasing head pointer in order
>>> to simplify the handling in the perf tool, it could be a breaking change
>>> for users of the perf_event_open syscall that currently rely on the way
>>> it works now.
>> Here I cannot create the connection between AUX head pointer and the
>> breakage of calling perf_event_open().
>>
>> Could you elaborate what's the reason the monotonical increasing head
>> pointer will lead to the breakage for perf_event_open()?
> It's a user-visible change in behaviour, isn't it? Therefore we risk
> breaking applications that rely on the current behaviour if we change it
> unconditionally.
>
> Given that the driver has always worked like this and it doesn't sound like
> it's the end of the world to deal with it in userspace (after all, it's
> aligned with intel-pt), then I don't think we should change it.
>
> Will

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