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Date:   Fri, 29 Oct 2021 20:26:56 +0200
From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To:     Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>
Cc:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Kevin Hilman <khilman@...nel.org>,
        Maulik Shah <mkshah@...eaurora.org>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM: runtime: Allow rpm_resume() to succeed when runtime
 PM is disabled

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:20 AM Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 16:33, Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:55:43PM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 04:02, Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:26:26AM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > > > > During system suspend, the PM core sets dev->power.is_suspended for the
> > > > > device that is being suspended. This flag is also being used in
> > > > > rpm_resume(), to allow it to succeed by returning 1, assuming that runtime
> > > > > PM has been disabled and the runtime PM status is RPM_ACTIVE, for the
> > > > > device.
> > > > >
> > > > > To make this behaviour a bit more useful, let's drop the check for the
> > > > > dev->power.is_suspended flag in rpm_resume(), as it doesn't really need to
> > > > > be limited to this anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  drivers/base/power/runtime.c | 4 ++--
> > > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/drivers/base/power/runtime.c b/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
> > > > > index ec94049442b9..fadc278e3a66 100644
> > > > > --- a/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
> > > > > +++ b/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
> > > > > @@ -742,8 +742,8 @@ static int rpm_resume(struct device *dev, int rpmflags)
> > > > >   repeat:
> > > > >       if (dev->power.runtime_error)
> > > > >               retval = -EINVAL;
> > > > > -     else if (dev->power.disable_depth == 1 && dev->power.is_suspended
> > > > > -         && dev->power.runtime_status == RPM_ACTIVE)
> > > > > +     else if (dev->power.disable_depth > 0 &&
> > > > > +             dev->power.runtime_status == RPM_ACTIVE)
> > > >
> > > > IIRC there was a good reason why the original code checked for
> > > > disable_depth == 1 rather than > 0.  But I don't remember exactly what
> > > > the reason was.  Maybe it had something to do with the fact that during
> > > > a system sleep __device_suspend_late calls __pm_runtime_disable, and the
> > > > code was checking that there were no other disables in effect.
> > >
> > > The check was introduced in the below commit:
> > >
> > > Commit 6f3c77b040fc
> > > Author: Kevin Hilman <khilman@...com>
> > > Date:   Fri Sep 21 22:47:34 2012 +0000
> > > PM / Runtime: let rpm_resume() succeed if RPM_ACTIVE, even when disabled, v2
> > >
> > > By reading the commit message it's pretty clear to me that the check
> > > was added to cover only one specific use case, during system suspend.
> > >
> > > That is, that a driver may want to call pm_runtime_get_sync() from a
> > > late/noirq callback (when the PM core has disabled runtime PM), to
> > > understand whether the device is still powered on and accessible.
> > >
> > > > This is
> > > > related to the documented behavior of rpm_resume (it's supposed to fail
> > > > with -EACCES if the device is disabled for runtime PM, no matter what
> > > > power state the device is in).
> > > >
> > > > That probably is also the explanation for why dev->power.is_suspended
> > > > gets checked: It's how the code tells whether a system sleep is in
> > > > progress.
> > >
> > > Yes, you are certainly correct about the current behaviour. It's there
> > > for a reason.
> > >
> > > On the other hand I would be greatly surprised if this change would
> > > cause any issues. Of course, I can't make guarantees, but I am, of
> > > course, willing to help to fix problems if those happen.
> > >
> > > As a matter of fact, I think the current behaviour looks quite
> > > inconsistent, as it depends on whether the device is being system
> > > suspended.
> > >
> > > Moreover, for syscore devices (dev->power.syscore is set for them),
> > > the PM core doesn't set the "is_suspended" flag. Those can benefit
> > > from a common behaviour.
> > >
> > > Finally, I think the "is_suspended" flag actually needs to be
> > > protected by a lock when set by the PM core, as it's being used in two
> > > separate execution paths. Although, rather than adding a lock for
> > > protection, we can just rely on the "disable_depth" in rpm_resume().
> > > It would be easier and makes the behaviour consistent too.
> >
> > As long as is_suspended isn't _written_ in two separate execution paths,
> > we're probably okay without a lock -- provided the code doesn't mind
> > getting an indefinite result when a read races with a write.
>
> Well, indefinite doesn't sound very good to me for these cases, even
> if it most likely never will happen.
>
> >
> > > > So overall, I suspect this change should not be made.  But some other
> > > > improvement (like a nice comment) might be in order.
> > > >
> > > > Alan Stern
> > >
> > > Thanks for reviewing!
> >
> > You're welcome.  Whatever you eventually decide to do should be okay
> > with me.  I just wanted to make sure that you understood the deeper
> > issue here and had given it some thought.  For example, it may turn out
> > that you can resolve matters simply by updating the documentation.
>
> I observed the issue on cpuidle-psci. The devices it operates upon are
> assigned as syscore devices and these are hooked up to a genpd.
>
> A call to pm_runtime_get_sync() can happen even after the PM core has
> disabled runtime PM in the "late" phase. So the error code is received
> for these real use-cases.
>
> Now, as we currently don't check the return value of
> pm_runtime_get_sync() in cpuidle-psci, it's not a big deal. But it
> certainly seems worth fixing in my opinion.
>
> Let's see if Rafael has some thoughts around this.

Am I thinking correctly that this is mostly about working around the
limitations of pm_runtime_force_suspend()?

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