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Date:   Fri, 29 Oct 2021 00:20:02 +0200
From:   Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>
To:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:     "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
        Kevin Hilman <khilman@...nel.org>,
        Maulik Shah <mkshah@...eaurora.org>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PM: runtime: Allow rpm_resume() to succeed when runtime
 PM is disabled

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 16:33, Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:55:43PM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 04:02, Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:26:26AM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > > > During system suspend, the PM core sets dev->power.is_suspended for the
> > > > device that is being suspended. This flag is also being used in
> > > > rpm_resume(), to allow it to succeed by returning 1, assuming that runtime
> > > > PM has been disabled and the runtime PM status is RPM_ACTIVE, for the
> > > > device.
> > > >
> > > > To make this behaviour a bit more useful, let's drop the check for the
> > > > dev->power.is_suspended flag in rpm_resume(), as it doesn't really need to
> > > > be limited to this anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/base/power/runtime.c | 4 ++--
> > > >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/base/power/runtime.c b/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
> > > > index ec94049442b9..fadc278e3a66 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/base/power/runtime.c
> > > > @@ -742,8 +742,8 @@ static int rpm_resume(struct device *dev, int rpmflags)
> > > >   repeat:
> > > >       if (dev->power.runtime_error)
> > > >               retval = -EINVAL;
> > > > -     else if (dev->power.disable_depth == 1 && dev->power.is_suspended
> > > > -         && dev->power.runtime_status == RPM_ACTIVE)
> > > > +     else if (dev->power.disable_depth > 0 &&
> > > > +             dev->power.runtime_status == RPM_ACTIVE)
> > >
> > > IIRC there was a good reason why the original code checked for
> > > disable_depth == 1 rather than > 0.  But I don't remember exactly what
> > > the reason was.  Maybe it had something to do with the fact that during
> > > a system sleep __device_suspend_late calls __pm_runtime_disable, and the
> > > code was checking that there were no other disables in effect.
> >
> > The check was introduced in the below commit:
> >
> > Commit 6f3c77b040fc
> > Author: Kevin Hilman <khilman@...com>
> > Date:   Fri Sep 21 22:47:34 2012 +0000
> > PM / Runtime: let rpm_resume() succeed if RPM_ACTIVE, even when disabled, v2
> >
> > By reading the commit message it's pretty clear to me that the check
> > was added to cover only one specific use case, during system suspend.
> >
> > That is, that a driver may want to call pm_runtime_get_sync() from a
> > late/noirq callback (when the PM core has disabled runtime PM), to
> > understand whether the device is still powered on and accessible.
> >
> > > This is
> > > related to the documented behavior of rpm_resume (it's supposed to fail
> > > with -EACCES if the device is disabled for runtime PM, no matter what
> > > power state the device is in).
> > >
> > > That probably is also the explanation for why dev->power.is_suspended
> > > gets checked: It's how the code tells whether a system sleep is in
> > > progress.
> >
> > Yes, you are certainly correct about the current behaviour. It's there
> > for a reason.
> >
> > On the other hand I would be greatly surprised if this change would
> > cause any issues. Of course, I can't make guarantees, but I am, of
> > course, willing to help to fix problems if those happen.
> >
> > As a matter of fact, I think the current behaviour looks quite
> > inconsistent, as it depends on whether the device is being system
> > suspended.
> >
> > Moreover, for syscore devices (dev->power.syscore is set for them),
> > the PM core doesn't set the "is_suspended" flag. Those can benefit
> > from a common behaviour.
> >
> > Finally, I think the "is_suspended" flag actually needs to be
> > protected by a lock when set by the PM core, as it's being used in two
> > separate execution paths. Although, rather than adding a lock for
> > protection, we can just rely on the "disable_depth" in rpm_resume().
> > It would be easier and makes the behaviour consistent too.
>
> As long as is_suspended isn't _written_ in two separate execution paths,
> we're probably okay without a lock -- provided the code doesn't mind
> getting an indefinite result when a read races with a write.

Well, indefinite doesn't sound very good to me for these cases, even
if it most likely never will happen.

>
> > > So overall, I suspect this change should not be made.  But some other
> > > improvement (like a nice comment) might be in order.
> > >
> > > Alan Stern
> >
> > Thanks for reviewing!
>
> You're welcome.  Whatever you eventually decide to do should be okay
> with me.  I just wanted to make sure that you understood the deeper
> issue here and had given it some thought.  For example, it may turn out
> that you can resolve matters simply by updating the documentation.

I observed the issue on cpuidle-psci. The devices it operates upon are
assigned as syscore devices and these are hooked up to a genpd.

A call to pm_runtime_get_sync() can happen even after the PM core has
disabled runtime PM in the "late" phase. So the error code is received
for these real use-cases.

Now, as we currently don't check the return value of
pm_runtime_get_sync() in cpuidle-psci, it's not a big deal. But it
certainly seems worth fixing in my opinion.

Let's see if Rafael has some thoughts around this.

Again, thanks for your input!

Kind regards
Uffe

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