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Message-ID: <342eb71c-0aff-77e5-3c71-92224d7d48e0@oracle.com>
Date:   Thu, 4 Nov 2021 20:27:21 +0000
From:   Jane Chu <jane.chu@...cle.com>
To:     Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
CC:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
        "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@...nel.org>,
        "david@...morbit.com" <david@...morbit.com>,
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        "agk@...hat.com" <agk@...hat.com>,
        "snitzer@...hat.com" <snitzer@...hat.com>,
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        "willy@...radead.org" <willy@...radead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 0/6] dax poison recovery with RWF_RECOVERY_DATA
 flag

On 11/4/2021 12:00 PM, Dan Williams wrote:

>>
>> If this understanding is in the right direction, then I'd like to
>> propose below changes to
>>     dax_direct_access(), dax_copy_to/from_iter(), pmem_copy_to/from_iter()
>>     and the dm layer copy_to/from_iter, dax_iomap_iter().
>>
>> 1. dax_iomap_iter() rely on dax_direct_access() to decide whether there
>>      is likely media error: if the API without DAX_F_RECOVERY returns
>>      -EIO, then switch to recovery-read/write code.  In recovery code,
>>      supply DAX_F_RECOVERY to dax_direct_access() in order to obtain
>>      'kaddr', and then call dax_copy_to/from_iter() with DAX_F_RECOVERY.
> 
> I like it. It allows for an atomic write+clear implementation on
> capable platforms and coordinates with potentially unmapped pages. The
> best of both worlds from the dax_clear_poison() proposal and my "take
> a fault and do a slow-path copy".
> 
>> 2. the _copy_to/from_iter implementation would be largely the same
>>      as in my recent patch, but some changes in Christoph's
>>      'dax-devirtualize' maybe kept, such as DAX_F_VIRTUAL, obviously
>>      virtual devices don't have the ability to clear poison, so no need
>>      to complicate them.  And this also means that not every endpoint
>>      dax device has to provide dax_op.copy_to/from_iter, they may use the
>>      default.
> 
> Did I miss this series or are you talking about this one?
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211018044054.1779424-1-hch@lst.de/

I was referring to
 
http://git.infradead.org/users/hch/misc.git/shortlog/refs/heads/dax-devirtualize
that has not come out yet, I said early on that I'll rebase on it,
but looks like we still need pmem_copy_to/from_iter(), so.

> 
>> I'm not sure about nova and others, if they use different 'write' other
>> than via iomap, does that mean there will be need for a new set of
>> dax_op for their read/write?
> 
> No, they're out-of-tree they'll adjust to the same interface that xfs
> and ext4 are using when/if they go upstream.
> 
>> the 3-in-1 binding would always be
>> required though. Maybe that'll be an ongoing discussion?
> 
> Yeah, let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
> 
>> Comments? Suggestions?
> 
> It sounds great to me!
> 

Thanks!  I'll send out an updated patchset when it's ready.

-jane


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