Date:   Wed, 10 Nov 2021 17:49:37 -0800
From:   Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>
To:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: prevent a race between process_mrelease and exit_mmap

On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:10 PM Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 12:10 PM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue 09-11-21 12:02:37, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:50 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue 09-11-21 11:37:06, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:26 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue 09-11-21 11:01:02, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > Discussing how the patch I want to post works for maple trees that
> > > > > > > Matthew is working on, I've got a question:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IIUC, according to Michal's post here:
> > > > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20170725154514.GN26723@dhcp22.suse.cz,
> > > > > > > unmap_vmas() can race with other mmap_lock read holders (including
> > > > > > > oom_reap_task_mm()) with no issues.
> > > > > > > Maple tree patchset requires rcu read lock or the mmap semaphore be
> > > > > > > held (read or write side) when walking the tree, including inside
> > > > > > > unmap_vmas(). When asked, he told me that he is not sure why it's
> > > > > > > currently "safe" to walk the vma->vm_next list in unmap_vmas() while
> > > > > > > another thread is reaping the mm.
> > > > > > > Michal (or maybe someone else), could you please clarify why
> > > > > > > unmap_vmas() can safely race with oom_reap_task_mm()? Or maybe my
> > > > > > > understanding was wrong?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I cannot really comment on the mapple tree part. But the existing
> > > > > > synchronization between oom reaper and exit_mmap is based on
> > > > > > - oom_reaper takes mmap_sem for reading
> > > > > > - exit_mmap sets MMF_OOM_SKIP and takes the exclusive mmap_sem before
> > > > > >   unmap_vmas.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The oom_reaper therefore can either unmap the address space if the lock
> > > > > > is taken before exit_mmap or it would it would bale out on MMF_OOM_SKIP
> > > > > > if it takes the lock afterwards. So the reaper cannot race with
> > > > > > unmap_vmas.
> > > > >
> > > > > I see. So, it's the combination of MMF_OOM_SKIP and mmap_lock working
> > > > > as a barrier which prevent them from racing with each other...
> > > > > I wasn't sure how
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20170724072332.31903-1-mhocko@kernel.org/
> > > > > was implementing this synchronization because it would take mmap_sem
> > > > > write side after unmap_vmas() and IIUC there was no
> > > > > "mmap_lock_write(); mmap_unlock_write();" sequence in exit_mmap at
> > > > > that time. I'll need to checkout the old sources to figure this out.
> > > >
> > > > My memory is rather dimm but AFAIR the main problem was freeing page
> > > > tables and freeing vmas not unmap_vmas. That one was no modifying the
> > > > vma list. Essentially it was just a slightly modified madvise don't
> > > > need. So that part was allowed to race with oom_reaper.
> > >
> > > So, both unmap_vmas and __oom_reap_task_mm do not modify vma list and
> > > therefore can execute concurrently. That makes sense, thanks.
> >
> > Yes, those can run concurrently. One thing I completely forgot about is
> > 27ae357fa82b ("mm, oom: fix concurrent munlock and oom reaper unmap, v3")
> > which is about interaction with the munlock.

Agrh! This interaction with the munlock you mentioned requires us to
take mmap_write_lock before munlock_vma_pages_all and that prevents
__oom_reap_task_mm from running concurrently with unmap_vmas. The
reapers would not be as effective as they are now after such a change
:(

>
> Thanks for pointing it out. IIUC, ideally we want to get rid of all
> these special cases and replace them with proper locking. If so, I'll
> see what I can do here.
>
> >
> > > Then I guess, if we want to be semantically correct in exit_mmap(), we
> > > would have to take mmap_read_lock before unmap_vmas, then drop it and
> > > take mmap_write_lock before free_pgtables.
> >
> > I think it would be just more straightforward to take the exclusive lock
> > for the whole operation.
>
> Ok, but note that this will prevent concurrent memory reaping, so will
> likely affect the speed at which memory is released during oom-kill. I
> saw measurable difference when testing process_mrelease placing
> mmap_write_lock before vs after unmap_vmas. If we take mmap_read_lock
> before unmap_vmas and mmap_write_lock after it, then there won't be
> such issue. You indicated that the speed of memory release should not
> be the deciding factor here but I want to make it clear before
> proceeding.
> Thanks,
> Suren.
>
> > --
> > Michal Hocko
> > SUSE Labs

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