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Message-ID: <7c751783b28766412f158e5ca074748ed18070bd.camel@linux.ibm.com>
Date:   Wed, 01 Dec 2021 11:58:09 -0500
From:   James Bottomley <jejb@...ux.ibm.com>
To:     Stefan Berger <stefanb@...ux.ibm.com>,
        linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     zohar@...ux.ibm.com, serge@...lyn.com,
        christian.brauner@...ntu.com, containers@...ts.linux.dev,
        dmitry.kasatkin@...il.com, ebiederm@...ssion.com,
        krzysztof.struczynski@...wei.com, roberto.sassu@...wei.com,
        mpeters@...hat.com, lhinds@...hat.com, lsturman@...hat.com,
        puiterwi@...hat.com, jamjoom@...ibm.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, paul@...l-moore.com, rgb@...hat.com,
        linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, jmorris@...ei.org,
        Denis Semakin <denis.semakin@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 17/20] ima: Use integrity_admin_ns_capable() to check
 corresponding capability

On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 11:06 -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> From: Denis Semakin <denis.semakin@...wei.com>
> 
> Use integrity_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability to
> allow read/write IMA policy without CAP_SYS_ADMIN but with
> CAP_INTEGRITY_ADMIN.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Denis Semakin <denis.semakin@...wei.com>
> ---
>  security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c
> b/security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c
> index fd2798f2d224..6766bb8262f2 100644
> --- a/security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c
> +++ b/security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c
> @@ -393,7 +393,7 @@ static int ima_open_policy(struct inode *inode,
> struct file *filp)
>  #else
>  		if ((filp->f_flags & O_ACCMODE) != O_RDONLY)
>  			return -EACCES;
> -		if (!ns_capable(ns->user_ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> +		if (!integrity_admin_ns_capable(ns->user_ns))

so this one is basically replacing what you did in RFC 16/20, which
seems a little redundant.

The question I'd like to ask is: is there still a reason for needing
CAP_INTEGRITY_ADMIN?  My thinking is that now IMA is pretty much tied
to requiring a user (and a mount, because of securityfs_ns) namespace,
there might not be a pressing need for an admin capability separated
from CAP_SYS_ADMIN because the owner of the user namespace passes the
ns_capable(..., CAP_SYS_ADMIN) check.  The rationale in 

https://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/IMA_Namespacing_design_considerations

Is effectively "because CAP_SYS_ADMIN is too powerful" but that's no
longer true of the user namespace owner.  It only passes the ns_capable
() check not the capable() one, so while it does get CAP_SYS_ADMIN, it
can only use it in a few situations which represent quite a power
reduction already.

James


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