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Message-ID: <YbiH04yqEqW8p8EM@arm.com>
Date:   Tue, 14 Dec 2021 12:02:27 +0000
From:   Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
To:     Yee Lee <yee.lee@...iatek.com>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, nicholas.Tang@...iatek.com,
        Kuan-Ying.lee@...iatek.com, chinwen.chang@...iatek.com,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@...il.com>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@...am.me.uk>,
        Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Marc Zyngier <maz@...nel.org>,
        David Brazdil <dbrazdil@...gle.com>,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>,
        Fuad Tabba <tabba@...gle.com>,
        "open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
        "moderated list:ARM64 PORT (AARCH64 ARCHITECTURE)" 
        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        "moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support" 
        <linux-mediatek@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] arm64/cpufeature: Optionally disable MTE via
 command-line

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 04:19:05PM +0800, Yee Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-12-03 at 16:33 +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 06:19:29PM +0800, Yee Lee wrote:
> > > As pointed out earlier, the hardware has been verified that still has
> > > transaction sending to DRAM due to mair_el1(Normal_tagged) is
> > > setup.  That means the override in this patch would be incompleted and
> > > cannot achieve to avoid undesired hardware confliction by disabling MTE.
> > > 
> > > Do we have other options to delay the configuration on MAIR_EL1 after
> > > the override? Or maybe another CONFIG to bypass the init in __cpu_setup?
> > 
> > This register is trickier as it may be cached in the TLB (IIRC). I think
> > deferring the setting of SCTLR_EL1.ATA(0) should be sufficient. Can you
> > try the diff I sent in the previous email and confirm that the accesses
> > to the allocation tag storage are blocked?
> 
> Yes, the previous diff is already online. 
> 
> In our experiment, with cmdline, "arm64.nomte", cpu_enable_mte() is
> bypassed and the ATA0 is not set, but the access to tag memory still
> dispatches. Only as MAIR_EL1 remains MAIR_ATTR_NORMAL, instead of
> MAIR_ATTR_NORMAL_TAGGED, the access will stop.
> 
> From the manual, I think ATA only affects TAG instructions like STG,
> IRG, but not the tag access within normal STR/LDR.

The ARM ARM states SCTLR_EL1.ATA0 == 0 means "access to allocation tags
is prevented". The AArch64.MemSingle[] pseudocode ends up with similar
checks:

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0596/2021-09/Shared-Pseudocode/AArch64-Functions?lang=en#AArch64.MemSingle.read.5

before reading the tags from memory in AArch64.CheckTag():

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0596/2021-09/Shared-Pseudocode/AArch64-Functions?lang=en#AArch64.CheckTag.4

My suggestion is to raise this with support@....com (feel free to cc me)
so that we clarify the hardware behaviour. I don't think it's entirely
correct (it's more like, is there a risk of external aborts caused by
access to allocation tag storage that's not present?)

-- 
Catalin

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