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Date:   Tue, 4 Jan 2022 02:42:39 +0000
From:   "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@...el.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
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Subject: RE: [RFC v16 1/9] iommu: Introduce attach/detach_pasid_table API

> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2021 4:49 AM
> 
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 03:57:45AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> 
> > This might be the only open as I still didn't see why we need an
> > explicit flag to claim a 'full device' thing. From kernel p.o.v the
> > ARM case is no different from Intel that both allows an user
> > page table attached to vRID, just with different format and
> > addr width (Intel is 64bit, ARM is 84bit where PASID can be
> > considered a sub-handle in the 84bit address space and not
> > the kernel's business).
> 
> I think the difference is intention.
> 
> In one case the kernel is saying 'attach a RID and I intend to use
> PASID' in which case the kernel user can call the PASID APIs.
> 
> The second case is saying 'I will not use PASID'.
> 
> They are different things and I think it is a surprising API if the
> kernel user attaches a domain, intends to use PASID and then finds out
> it can't, eg because an ARM user page table was hooked up.
> 
> If you imagine the flag as 'I intend to use PASID' I think it makes a
> fair amount of sense from an API design too.
> 
> We could probably do without it, at least for VFIO and qemu cases, but
> it seems a little bit peculiar to me.
> 

ok, combining the kernel user makes the flag more sensible.

Thanks
Kevin

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