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Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 10:24:13 -0500 (EST)
From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
Cc: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...ntu.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@...nel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] rseq: x86: implement abort-at-ip extension
----- On Jan 12, 2022, at 10:15 AM, David Laight David.Laight@...LAB.COM wrote:
> From: Mathieu Desnoyers
>> Sent: 12 January 2022 15:06
>>
>> ----- On Jan 12, 2022, at 9:58 AM, David Laight David.Laight@...LAB.COM wrote:
>>
>> >> * [*] The openrisc, powerpc64 and x86-64 architectures define a "redzone" as a
>> >> * stack area beyond the stack pointer which can be used by the compiler
>> >> * to store local variables in leaf functions.
>> >
>> > I wonder if that is really worth the trouble it causes!
>> > By the time a function is spilling values to stack the cost
>> > of a %sp update is almost certainly noise.
>> >
>> > Someone clearly thought it was a 'good idea (tm)'.
>>
>> I must admit that I've been surprised to learn about these redzones. Thanks for
>> pointing them out to me, it was clearly a blind spot. I suspect it would be
>> useful
>> to introduce per-architecture KERNEL_REDZONE, USER_REDZONE and
>> COMPAT_USER_REDZONE
>> with a asm-generic version defining them to 0, with proper documentation. It
>> would
>> make it clearer to kernel developers working on stuff similar to signal handler
>> delivery that they need to consider these carefully.
>
> They can never be used in kernel - any ISR would overwrite them.
arch/powerpc/include/asm/ptrace.h define those for ppc64:
113:#define USER_REDZONE_SIZE 512
114:#define KERNEL_REDZONE_SIZE 288
and then uses the kernel redzone size for:
#define STACK_INT_FRAME_SIZE (sizeof(struct pt_regs) + \
STACK_FRAME_OVERHEAD + KERNEL_REDZONE_SIZE)
which AFAIU should ensure that ISR don't overwrite the redzone within the kernel.
Thanks,
Mathieu
>
> David
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