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Date:   Wed, 2 Feb 2022 09:20:32 +1300
From:   Barry Song <21cnbao@...il.com>
To:     Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:     "Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@....com>,
        Yicong Yang <yangyicong@...ilicon.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        LAK <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Ben Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>,
        Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@...hat.com>,
        prime.zeng@...wei.com,
        Jonathan Cameron <jonathan.cameron@...wei.com>,
        ego@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, Linuxarm <linuxarm@...wei.com>,
        Barry Song <song.bao.hua@...ilicon.com>,
        Guodong Xu <guodong.xu@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] sched/fair: Scan cluster before scanning LLC in
 wake-up path

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 10:39 PM Srikar Dronamraju
<srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> * Barry Song <21cnbao@...il.com> [2022-01-28 07:40:15]:
>
> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 8:13 PM Srikar Dronamraju
> > <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > * Barry Song <21cnbao@...il.com> [2022-01-28 09:21:08]:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 4:41 AM Gautham R. Shenoy
> > > > <gautham.shenoy@....com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 04:09:47PM +0800, Yicong Yang wrote:
> > > > > > From: Barry Song <song.bao.hua@...ilicon.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For platforms having clusters like Kunpeng920, CPUs within the same
> > > > > > cluster have lower latency when synchronizing and accessing shared
> > > > > > resources like cache. Thus, this patch tries to find an idle cpu
> > > > > > within the cluster of the target CPU before scanning the whole LLC
> > > > > > to gain lower latency.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Note neither Kunpeng920 nor x86 Jacobsville supports SMT, so this
> > > > > > patch doesn't consider SMT for this moment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Testing has been done on Kunpeng920 by pinning tasks to one numa
> > > > > > and two numa. On Kunpeng920, Each numa has 8 clusters and each
> > > > > > cluster has 4 CPUs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With this patch, We noticed enhancement on tbench within one
> > > > > > numa or cross two numa.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On numa 0:
> > > > > >                             5.17-rc1                patched
> > > > > > Hmean     1        324.73 (   0.00%)      378.01 *  16.41%*
> > > > > > Hmean     2        645.36 (   0.00%)      754.63 *  16.93%*
> > > > > > Hmean     4       1302.09 (   0.00%)     1507.54 *  15.78%*
> > > > > > Hmean     8       2612.03 (   0.00%)     2982.57 *  14.19%*
> > > > > > Hmean     16      5307.12 (   0.00%)     5886.66 *  10.92%*
> > > > > > Hmean     32      9354.22 (   0.00%)     9908.13 *   5.92%*
> > > > > > Hmean     64      7240.35 (   0.00%)     7278.78 *   0.53%*
> > > > > > Hmean     128     6186.40 (   0.00%)     6187.85 (   0.02%)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On numa 0-1:
> > > > > >                             5.17-rc1                patched
> > > > > > Hmean     1        320.01 (   0.00%)      378.44 *  18.26%*
> > > > > > Hmean     2        643.85 (   0.00%)      752.52 *  16.88%*
> > > > > > Hmean     4       1287.36 (   0.00%)     1505.62 *  16.95%*
> > > > > > Hmean     8       2564.60 (   0.00%)     2955.29 *  15.23%*
> > > > > > Hmean     16      5195.69 (   0.00%)     5814.74 *  11.91%*
> > > > > > Hmean     32      9769.16 (   0.00%)    10872.63 *  11.30%*
> > > > > > Hmean     64     15952.50 (   0.00%)    17281.98 *   8.33%*
> > > > > > Hmean     128    13113.77 (   0.00%)    13895.20 *   5.96%*
> > > > > > Hmean     256    10997.59 (   0.00%)    11244.69 *   2.25%*
> > > > > > Hmean     512    14623.60 (   0.00%)    15526.25 *   6.17%*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This will also help to improve the MySQL. With MySQL server
> > > > > > running on numa 0 and client running on numa 1, both QPS and
> > > > > > latency is imporved on read-write case:
> > > > > >                         5.17-rc1        patched
> > > > > > QPS-16threads        143333.2633    145077.4033(+1.22%)
> > > > > > QPS-24threads        195085.9367    202719.6133(+3.91%)
> > > > > > QPS-32threads        241165.6867      249020.74(+3.26%)
> > > > > > QPS-64threads        244586.8433    253387.7567(+3.60%)
> > > > > > avg-lat-16threads           2.23           2.19(+1.19%)
> > > > > > avg-lat-24threads           2.46           2.36(+3.79%)
> > > > > > avg-lat-36threads           2.66           2.57(+3.26%)
> > > > > > avg-lat-64threads           5.23           5.05(+3.44%)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tested-by: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@...ilicon.com>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Barry Song <song.bao.hua@...ilicon.com>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Yicong Yang <yangyicong@...ilicon.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  kernel/sched/fair.c | 46 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 42 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > > > index 5146163bfabb..2f84a933aedd 100644
> > > > > > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > > > > > @@ -6262,12 +6262,46 @@ static inline int select_idle_smt(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  #endif /* CONFIG_SCHED_SMT */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER
> > > > > > +/*
> > > > > > + * Scan the cluster domain for idle CPUs and clear cluster cpumask after scanning
> > > > > > + */
> > > > > > +static inline int scan_cluster(struct task_struct *p, int prev_cpu, int target)
> > > > > > +{
> > > > > > +     struct cpumask *cpus = this_cpu_cpumask_var_ptr(select_idle_mask);
> > > > > > +     struct sched_domain *sd = rcu_dereference(per_cpu(sd_cluster, target));
> > > > > > +     int cpu, idle_cpu;
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +     /* TODO: Support SMT case while a machine with both cluster and SMT born */
> > > > > > +     if (!sched_smt_active() && sd) {
> > > > > > +             for_each_cpu_and(cpu, cpus, sched_domain_span(sd)) {
> > > > > > +                     idle_cpu = __select_idle_cpu(cpu, p);
> > > > > > +                     if ((unsigned int)idle_cpu < nr_cpumask_bits)
> > > > > > +                             return idle_cpu;
> > > > > > +             }
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +             /* Don't ping-pong tasks in and out cluster frequently */
> > > > > > +             if (cpus_share_resources(target, prev_cpu))
> > > > > > +                     return target;
> > > > >
> > > > > We reach here when there aren't any idle CPUs within the
> > > > > cluster. However there might be idle CPUs in the MC domain. Is a busy
> > > > > @target preferable to a potentially idle CPU within the larger domain
> > > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Gautham,
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Barry,
> > >
> > >
> > > > My benchmark showed some performance regression while load was medium or above
> > > > if we grabbed idle cpu in and out the cluster. it turned out the
> > > > regression disappeared if
> > > > we blocked the ping-pong. so the logic here is that if we have scanned
> > > > and found an
> > > > idle cpu within the cluster before, we don't let the task jumping back
> > > > and forth frequently
> > > > as cache synchronization is higher cost. but the code still allows
> > > > scanning out of the cluster
> > > > if we haven't packed waker and wakee together yet.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Like what Gautham said, should we choose the same cluster if we find that
> > > there are no idle-cpus in the LLC? This way we avoid ping-pong if there are
> > > no idle-cpus but we still pick an idle-cpu to a busy cpu?
> >
> > Hi Srikar,
> > I am sorry I didn't get your question. Currently the code works as below:
> > if task A wakes up task B, and task A is in LLC0 and task B is in LLC1.
> > we will scan the cluster of A before scanning the whole LLC0, in this case,
> > cluster of A is the closest sibling, so it is the better choice than other CPUs
> > which are in LLC0 but not in the cluster of A.
>
> Yes, this is right.
>
> > But we do scan all cpus of LLC0
> > afterwards if we fail to find an idle CPU in the cluster.
>
> However my reading of the patch, before we can scan other clusters within
> the LLC (aka LLC0), we have a check in scan cluster which says
>
>         /* Don't ping-pong tasks in and out cluster frequently */
>         if (cpus_share_resources(target, prev_cpu))
>            return target;
>
> My reading of this is, ignore other clusters (at this point, we know there
> are no idle CPUs in this cluster. We don't know if there are idle cpus in
> them or not) if the previous CPU and target CPU happen to be from the same
> cluster. This effectively means we are given preference to cache over idle
> CPU.

Note we only ignore other cluster while prev_cpu and target are in same
cluster. if the condition is false, we are not ignoring other cpus. typically,
if waker is the target, and wakee is the prev_cpu, that means if they are
already in one cluster, we don't stupidly spread them in select_idle_cpu() path
as benchmark shows we are losing. so, yes, we are giving preference to
cache over CPU.

>
> Or Am I still missing something?
>
> >
> > After a while, if the cluster of A gets an idle CPU and pulls B into the
> > cluster, we prefer not pushing B out of the cluster of A again though
> > there might be an idle CPU outside. as benchmark shows getting an
> > idle CPU out of the cluster of A doesn't bring performance improvement
> > but performance decreases as B might be getting in and getting out
> > the cluster of A very frequently, then cache coherence ping-pong.
> >
>
> The counter argument can be that Task A and Task B are related and were
> running on the same cluster. But Load balancer moved Task B to a different
> cluster. Now this check may cause them to continue to run on two different
> clusters, even though the underlying load balance issues may have changed.
>
> No?

LB is much slower than select_idle_cpu().  select_idle_cpu() can dynamically
work afterwards. so it is always a dynamic balance and task migration.

>
>
> --
> Thanks and Regards
> Srikar Dronamraju

Thanks
Barry

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