lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Mon, 14 Feb 2022 10:14:16 -0500
From:   Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>
To:     Michal Suchanek <msuchanek@...e.de>, keyrings@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org, linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     kexec@...ts.infradead.org, Philipp Rudo <prudo@...hat.com>,
        Nayna <nayna@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
        linux-s390@...r.kernel.org, Vasily Gorbik <gor@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Lakshmi Ramasubramanian <nramas@...ux.microsoft.com>,
        Heiko Carstens <hca@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Jessica Yu <jeyu@...nel.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>,
        Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>,
        Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
        Hari Bathini <hbathini@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@...ux.ibm.com>,
        linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org,
        Frank van der Linden <fllinden@...zon.com>,
        Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Daniel Axtens <dja@...ens.net>, buendgen@...ibm.com,
        Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
        Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
        Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Dmitry Kasatkin <dmitry.kasatkin@...il.com>,
        James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
        "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
        Sven Schnelle <svens@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Baoquan He <bhe@...hat.com>,
        linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/6] powerpc/kexec_file: Add KEXEC_SIG support.

Hi Michal,

On Sun, 2022-02-13 at 21:59 -0500, Mimi Zohar wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 12:37 +0100, Michal Suchanek wrote:
> > diff --git a/arch/powerpc/Kconfig b/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
> > index dea74d7717c0..1cde9b6c5987 100644
> > --- a/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
> > +++ b/arch/powerpc/Kconfig
> > @@ -560,6 +560,22 @@ config KEXEC_FILE
> >  config ARCH_HAS_KEXEC_PURGATORY
> >         def_bool KEXEC_FILE
> >  
> > +config KEXEC_SIG
> > +       bool "Verify kernel signature during kexec_file_load() syscall"
> > +       depends on KEXEC_FILE && MODULE_SIG_FORMAT
> > +       help
> > +         This option makes kernel signature verification mandatory for
> > +         the kexec_file_load() syscall.
> 
> When KEXEC_SIG is enabled on other architectures, IMA does not define a
> kexec 'appraise' policy rule.  Refer to the policy rules in
> security/ima/ima_efi.c.  Similarly the kexec 'appraise' policy rule in
> arch/powerpc/kernel/ima_policy.c should not be defined.

The discussion shouldn't only be about IMA vs. KEXEC_SIG kernel image
signature verification.  Let's try and reframe the problem a bit.

1. Unify and simply the existing kexec signature verification so
verifying the KEXEC kernel image signature works irrespective of
signature type - PE, appended signature.

solution: enable KEXEC_SIG  (This patch set, with the above powerpc IMA
policy changes.)

2. Measure and include the kexec kernel image in a log for attestation,
if desired.

solution: enable IMA_ARCH_POLICY 
- Powerpc: requires trusted boot to be enabled.
- EFI:   requires  secure boot to be enabled.  The IMA efi policy
doesn't differentiate between secure and trusted boot.

3. Carry the kexec kernel image measurement across kexec, if desired
and supported on the architecture.

solution: enable IMA_KEXEC

Comparison: 
- Are there any differences between IMA vs. KEXEC_SIG measuring the
kexec kernel image?

One of the main differences is "what" is included in the measurement
list differs.  In both cases, the 'd-ng' field of the IMA measurement
list template (e.g. ima-ng, ima-sig, ima-modsig) is the full file hash
including the appended signature.  With IMA and the 'ima-modsig'
template, an additional hash without the appended signature is defined,
as well as including the appended signature in the 'sig' field.

Including the file hash and appended signature in the measurement list
allows an attestation server, for example, to verify the appended
signature without having to know the file hash without the signature.

Other differences are already included in the Kconfig KEXEC_SIG "Notes"
section.

-- 
thanks,

Mimi

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ