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Message-ID: <YkxYOxXDfJIDtcte@fedora>
Date:   Tue, 5 Apr 2022 07:54:51 -0700
From:   Darren Hart <darren@...amperecomputing.com>
To:     Barry Song <21cnbao@...il.com>
Cc:     LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Arm <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@....com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Barry Song <song.bao.hua@...ilicon.com>,
        Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>,
        "D . Scott Phillips" <scott@...amperecomputing.com>,
        Ilkka Koskinen <ilkka@...amperecomputing.com>,
        Carl Worth <carl@...amperecomputing.com>,
        stable@...r.kernel.org, Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] topology: make core_mask include at least
 cluster_siblings

On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 06:38:01PM +1200, Barry Song wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 3:46 PM Darren Hart
> <darren@...amperecomputing.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 04, 2022 at 04:40:37PM -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
> > > Ampere Altra defines CPU clusters in the ACPI PPTT. They share a Snoop
> > > Control Unit, but have no shared CPU-side last level cache.
> > >
> > > cpu_coregroup_mask() will return a cpumask with weight 1, while
> > > cpu_clustergroup_mask() will return a cpumask with weight 2.
> > >
> > > As a result, build_sched_domain() will BUG() once per CPU with:
> > >
> > > BUG: arch topology borken
> > > the CLS domain not a subset of the MC domain
> > >
> > > The MC level cpumask is then extended to that of the CLS child, and is
> > > later removed entirely as redundant. This sched domain topology is an
> > > improvement over previous topologies, or those built without
> > > SCHED_CLUSTER, particularly for certain latency sensitive workloads.
> > > With the current scheduler model and heuristics, this is a desirable
> > > default topology for Ampere Altra and Altra Max system.
> > >
> > > Rather than create a custom sched domains topology structure and
> > > introduce new logic in arch/arm64 to detect these systems, update the
> > > core_mask so coregroup is never a subset of clustergroup, extending it
> > > to cluster_siblings if necessary. Only do this if CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER
> > > is enabled to avoid also changing the topology (MC) when
> > > CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER is disabled.
> > >
> > > This has the added benefit over a custom topology of working for both
> > > symmetric and asymmetric topologies. It does not address systems where
> > > the CLUSTER topology is above a populated MC topology, but these are not
> > > considered today and can be addressed separately if and when they
> > > appear.
> > >
> > > The final sched domain topology for a 2 socket Ampere Altra system is
> > > unchanged with or without CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER, and the BUG is avoided:
> > >
> > > For CPU0:
> > >
> > > CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER=y
> > > CLS  [0-1]
> > > DIE  [0-79]
> > > NUMA [0-159]
> > >
> > > CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER is not set
> > > DIE  [0-79]
> > > NUMA [0-159]
> > >
> > > Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
> > > Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@....com>
> > > Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
> > > Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>
> > > Cc: Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
> > > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
> > > Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
> > > Cc: Barry Song <song.bao.hua@...ilicon.com>
> > > Cc: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@....com>
> > > Cc: D. Scott Phillips <scott@...amperecomputing.com>
> > > Cc: Ilkka Koskinen <ilkka@...amperecomputing.com>
> > > Cc: Carl Worth <carl@...amperecomputing.com>
> > > Cc: <stable@...r.kernel.org> # 5.16.x
> > > Suggested-by: Barry Song <song.bao.hua@...ilicon.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Darren Hart <darren@...amperecomputing.com>
> > > ---
> > > v1: Drop MC level if coregroup weight == 1
> > > v2: New sd topo in arch/arm64/kernel/smp.c
> > > v3: No new topo, extend core_mask to cluster_siblings
> > > v4: Rebase on 5.18-rc1 for GregKH to pull. Add IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER).
> >
> > A bit more context on the state of review:
> >
> > Several folks reviewed, but I didn't add their Reviewed-by since I added the
> > IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER) test since they reviewed it last. This change
> > preserves the stated intent of the change when CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER is disabled.
> 
> Everything still works even without IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER), right?
> Anyway, putting IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER) seems to be right as
> well.

Hi Barry,

Without the additional IS_ENABLED check, if CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER is disabled
then rather than a topology of:

DIE  [0-79]
NUMA [0-159]

We end up expanding the MC span and get:

MC   [0-1]
DIE  [0-79]
NUMA [0-159]

This isn't "bad", but it wasn't the stated intent, and I prefer users can choose
between the two by using the CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER option.

> But it seems it is still a good choice to put all these reviewed-by
> and acked-by you got in
> v3? I don't  think the added IS_ENABLED will change their decisions.

I think Sudeep is the only one that wrote the actual tag, and in my experience
those tags should be explicitly volunteered rather than assumed, especially if a
change is made, especially for Reviewed-by. [1] reinforces this with "Hence
patch mergers will sometimes manually convert an acker’s “yep, looks good to me”
into an Acked-by: (but note that it is usually better to ask for an explicit
ack)."

Greg, since I'm asking you to pull this - please let me know if I'm being overly
cautious with tags here.

> 
> >
> > Barry Song - Suggested this approach

Can we add your Reviewed-by here Barry?

Thanks,

Darren

1. https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.html#when-to-use-acked-by-cc-and-co-developed-by

> > Vincent Guittot - informal review with reservations
> > Sudeep Holla - Acked-by
> > Dietmar Eggemann - informal review (added to Cc, apologies for the omission Dietmar)
> >
> > All but Barry's recommendation captured in the v3 thread:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/f1deaeabfd31fdf512ff6502f38186ef842c2b1f.1646413117.git.darren@os.amperecomputing.com/
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > >
> > >  drivers/base/arch_topology.c | 9 +++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/base/arch_topology.c b/drivers/base/arch_topology.c
> > > index 1d6636ebaac5..5497c5ab7318 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/base/arch_topology.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/base/arch_topology.c
> > > @@ -667,6 +667,15 @@ const struct cpumask *cpu_coregroup_mask(int cpu)
> > >                       core_mask = &cpu_topology[cpu].llc_sibling;
> > >       }
> > >
> > > +     /*
> > > +      * For systems with no shared cpu-side LLC but with clusters defined,
> > > +      * extend core_mask to cluster_siblings. The sched domain builder will
> > > +      * then remove MC as redundant with CLS if SCHED_CLUSTER is enabled.
> > > +      */
> > > +     if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SCHED_CLUSTER) &&
> > > +         cpumask_subset(core_mask, &cpu_topology[cpu].cluster_sibling))
> > > +             core_mask = &cpu_topology[cpu].cluster_sibling;
> > > +
> > >       return core_mask;
> > >  }
> > >
> > --
> > Darren Hart
> > Ampere Computing / OS and Kernel
> 
> Thanks
> Barry

-- 
Darren Hart
Ampere Computing / OS and Kernel

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