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Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 17:44:03 +0000
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Subject: RE: [PATCH 19/30] panic: Add the panic hypervisor notifier list
From: Guilherme G. Piccoli <gpiccoli@...lia.com> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 11:04 AM
>
> On 29/04/2022 14:30, Michael Kelley (LINUX) wrote:
> > From: Guilherme G. Piccoli <gpiccoli@...lia.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022
> 3:49 PM
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> @@ -2843,7 +2843,7 @@ static void __exit vmbus_exit(void)
> >> if (ms_hyperv.misc_features & HV_FEATURE_GUEST_CRASH_MSR_AVAILABLE) {
> >> kmsg_dump_unregister(&hv_kmsg_dumper);
> >> unregister_die_notifier(&hyperv_die_report_block);
> >> - atomic_notifier_chain_unregister(&panic_notifier_list,
> >> + atomic_notifier_chain_unregister(&panic_hypervisor_list,
> >> &hyperv_panic_report_block);
> >> }
> >>
> >
> > Using the hypervisor_list here produces a bit of a mismatch. In many cases
> > this notifier will do nothing, and will defer to the kmsg_dump() mechanism
> > to notify the hypervisor about the panic. Running the kmsg_dump()
> > mechanism is linked to the info_list, so I'm thinking the Hyper-V panic report
> > notifier should be on the info_list as well. That way the reporting behavior
> > is triggered at the same point in the panic path regardless of which
> > reporting mechanism is used.
> >
>
> Hi Michael, thanks for your feedback! I agree that your idea could work,
> but...there is one downside: imagine the kmsg_dump() approach is not set
> in some Hyper-V guest, then we would rely in the regular notification
> mechanism [hv_die_panic_notify_crash()], right?
> But...you want then to run this notifier in the informational list,
> which...won't execute *by default* before kdump if no kmsg_dump() is
> set. So, this logic is convoluted when you mix it with the default level
> concept + kdump.
Yes, you are right. But to me that speaks as much to the linkage
between the informational list and kmsg_dump() being the core
problem. But as I described in my reply to Patch 24, I can live with
the linkage as-is.
FWIW, guests on newer versions of Hyper-V will always register a
kmsg dumper. The flags that are tested to decide whether to
register provide compatibility with older versions of Hyper-V that
don’t support the 4K bytes of notification info.
>
> May I suggest something? If possible, take a run with this patch set +
> DEBUG_NOTIFIER=y, in *both* cases (with and without the kmsg_dump()
> set). I did that and they run almost at the same time...I've checked the
> notifiers called, it's like almost nothing runs in-between.
>
> I feel the panic notification mechanism does really fit with a
> hypervisor list, it's a good match with the nature of the list, which
> aims at informing the panic notification to the hypervisor/FW.
> Of course we can modify it if you prefer...but please take into account
> the kdump case and how it complicates the logic.
I agree that the runtime effect of one list vs. the other is nil. The
code works and can stay as you written it.
I was trying to align from a conceptual standpoint. It was a bit
unexpected that one path would be on the hypervisor list, and the
other path effectively on the informational list. When I see
conceptual mismatches like that, I tend to want to understand why,
and if there is something more fundamental that is out-of-whack.
>
> Let me know your considerations, in case you can experiment with the
> patch set as-is.
> Cheers,
>
>
> Guilherme
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