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Message-ID: <87pmkivjst.ffs@tglx>
Date:   Thu, 12 May 2022 17:42:58 +0200
From:   Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, x86@...nel.org,
        Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>,
        Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
        Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        "H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@...il.com>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@...el.com>,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 00/10] Linear Address Masking enabling

On Wed, May 11 2022 at 08:49, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 05:27:40AM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>> Hi all. Here's long overdue update on LAM enabling.
>> 
>> # Description #
>> 
>> Linear Address Masking[1] (LAM) modifies the checking that is applied to
>> 64-bit linear addresses, allowing software to use of the untranslated
>> address bits for metadata.
>> 
>> The patchset brings support for LAM for userspace addresses.
>> 
>> The most sensitive part of enabling is change in tlb.c, where CR3 flags
>> get set. Please take a look that what I'm doing makes sense.
>> 
>> The feature competes for bits with 5-level paging: LAM_U48 makes it
>> impossible to map anything about 47-bits. The patchset made these
>> capability mutually exclusive: whatever used first wins. LAM_U57 can be
>> combined with mappings above 47-bits.
>
> So aren't we creating a problem with LAM_U48 where programs relying on
> it are of limited sustainability?
>
> Any such program simply *cannot* run on 5 level pagetables. Why do we
> want to do this?

More bits are better :)

Seriously, I agree that restricting it to LAM57, which gives us 6 bits,
makes a lot of sense _and_ makes the whole thing way simpler.

So supporting both needs a truly good justification and a real world use
case.

Thanks,

        tglx

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