linux-kernel - RE: [PATCH v9 1/6] LICENSES: Add the copyleft-next-0.3.1 license

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Date:   Wed, 25 May 2022 17:05:54 +0000
From:   "Bird, Tim" <Tim.Bird@...y.com>
To:     Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Richard Fontana <fontana@...rpeleven.org>
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        Kuno Woudt <kuno@...b.nl>,
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        Ciaran Farrell <Ciaran.Farrell@...e.com>,
        Christopher De Nicolo <Christopher.DeNicolo@...e.com>,
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        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@...mhuis.info>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v9 1/6] LICENSES: Add the copyleft-next-0.3.1 license



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...radead.org> On Behalf Of Luis Chamberlain
> 
> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 11:27:34PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 29 2021 at 11:44, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > > +    "FSF-Free" means classified as 'free' by the Free Software Foundation.
> > > +
> > > +    "OSI-Approved" means approved as 'Open Source' by the Open Source
> > > +    Initiative.
> >
> > copyleft-next is neither nor. Confused...
> 
> The terms are used in two clauses:
> 
> 4. Condition Against Further Restrictions; Inbound License Compatibility
> 7. Nullification of Copyleft/Proprietary Dual Licensing
> 
> IANAL but at least as per my reading, in both cases it is used to refer to
> "other licenses", not itself, so I see no issue with that use. If there
> is an issue it would be nice to hear more details about it, so that
> perhaps new versions of the license can make this clearer somehow, if
> not already.

I don't begrudge Luis his licensing choice, but one
of the main reasons to stick with a well-known and reviewed license
is to avoid kernel developers having to do license-vetting
themselves.  I know it's being submitted as an OR, but I question
the value of introducing another license into the kernel's licensing mix.
    -- Tim