linux-kernel - Re: [RESEND RFC PATCH] epoll: autoremove wakers even more aggressively

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Message-Id: <20220629192435.df27c0dbb07ef72165e1de5e@linux-foundation.org>
Date:   Wed, 29 Jun 2022 19:24:35 -0700
From:   Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>
Cc:     Benjamin Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        Roman Penyaev <rpenyaev@...e.de>,
        Jason Baron <jbaron@...mai.com>,
        Khazhismel Kumykov <khazhy@...gle.com>, Heiher <r@....cc>
Subject: Re: [RESEND RFC PATCH] epoll: autoremove wakers even more
 aggressively

On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 18:12:46 -0700 Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 4:55 PM Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 14:24:23 -0700 Benjamin Segall <bsegall@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > > If a process is killed or otherwise exits while having active network
> > > connections and many threads waiting on epoll_wait, the threads will all
> > > be woken immediately, but not removed from ep->wq. Then when network
> > > traffic scans ep->wq in wake_up, every wakeup attempt will fail, and
> > > will not remove the entries from the list.
> > >
> > > This means that the cost of the wakeup attempt is far higher than usual,
> > > does not decrease, and this also competes with the dying threads trying
> > > to actually make progress and remove themselves from the wq.
> > >
> > > Handle this by removing visited epoll wq entries unconditionally, rather
> > > than only when the wakeup succeeds - the structure of ep_poll means that
> > > the only potential loss is the timed_out->eavail heuristic, which now
> > > can race and result in a redundant ep_send_events attempt. (But only
> > > when incoming data and a timeout actually race, not on every timeout)
> > >
> >
> > Thanks.  I added people from 412895f03cbf96 ("epoll: atomically remove
> > wait entry on wake up") to cc.  Hopefully someone there can help review
> > and maybe test this.
> >
> >
> 
> Thanks Andrew. Just wanted to add that we are seeing this issue in
> production with real workloads and it has caused hard lockups.
> Particularly network heavy workloads with a lot of threads in
> epoll_wait() can easily trigger this issue if they get killed
> (oom-killed in our case).

Hard lockups are undesirable.  Is a cc:stable justified here?