linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v5] watchdog: add driver for StreamLabs USB watchdog device

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Message-ID: <CALW4P+JiHWMchE+bq1UMTaW78YXo42_069vcimjE=och=7havg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 1 Aug 2022 05:00:30 +0100
From:   Alexey Klimov <klimov.linux@...il.com>
To:     Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:     Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
        Oliver Neukum <oneukum@...e.com>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        linux-watchdog@...r.kernel.org, wim@...ux-watchdog.org,
        USB list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        atishp@...osinc.com, atishp@...shpatra.org,
        Yury Norov <yury.norov@...il.com>,
        Alexey Klimov <aklimov@...hat.com>,
        Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] watchdog: add driver for StreamLabs USB watchdog device

Hi Alan,

Thank you for your responses here and in another email thread.

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 3:17 PM Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 01:20:55AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 03:34:16AM +0100, Alexey Klimov wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 8:48 AM Oliver Neukum <oneukum@...e.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 26.07.22 02:21, Alexey Klimov wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 9:51 AM Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 04:06:05AM +0100, Alexey Klimov wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > [..]
> > > > >
> > > > >> Anyway, driver looks good to me, nice work!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Reviewed-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Greg. If you don't mind I'll use your tag in next version
> > > > > after making changes suggested by Guenter since there will be no
> > > > > significant functional changes. If code will change a lot, then the
> > > > > process (Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst) will require me
> > > > > to drop the tag.
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > while thinking about this a question arose. How does this
> > > > device react to a USB reset? A watchdog that can be disabled
> > > > by a simple reset does not like very reliable to me.
> > > > Do you need to implement pre/post_reset() ?
> > >
> > > You're right. Upon reset the watchdog is disabled even if it was active before.
> > > Adding empty ->pre_reset() and ->post_reset() helps to avoid that, but
> > > looking at Documentation and other drivers it seems that I need to do:
> > > in pre_reset():
> > > mutex_lock() to block any other I/O to the usb device;
> > > __usb_streamlabs_wdt_cmd(STOP) to stop the watchdog;
> > > and do not unlock the mutex;
> > >
> > > in post_reset():
> > > if (watchdog_active())
> > >         __usb_streamlabs_wdt_cmd(START);
> > > mutex_unlock() to allow other's I/O to the usb deivce.
> > >
> > > Seems right?
> > >
> > Not necessarily. Is other code doing something similar ?
> > Using a mutex like this creates the risk for hung tasks.
>
> Are mutexes intended to be used in situations where one function
> acquires the lock, then returns, and then a different function releases
> the lock?  I'm not sure about this.
>
> Perhaps a good old semaphore would be more appropriate.  But it's clear
> that I/O to the device does need to be mutually exclusive with resets,
> one way or another.

Thanks for the idea, I'll look into implementing this.
Also, just to let you know there are a lot of drivers who do mutex
lock in pre_reset and mutex release in post_reset.
And there is 16-years old commit 47104b0dd32cec467574822b0dc3517b3de3f0ad
Maybe usb skeleton driver could be updated as well.

Best regards,
Alexey