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Message-ID: <b4f0dca5-1d15-67f7-4600-9a0a91e9d0bd@intel.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 11:12:24 -0700
From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
To: Stephen Röttger <sroettger@...gle.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>, x86@...nel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: PKU usage improvements for threads
On 8/23/22 04:08, Stephen Röttger wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 11:11 PM Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com> wrote:
>> On 8/22/22 13:40, Kees Cook wrote:
>>> 1) It appears to be a bug that a thread without the correct PK can make
>>> VMAs covered by a separate PK, out from under other threads. (e.g. mmap
>>> a new mapping to wipe out the defined PK for it.) It seems that PK checks
>>> should be made when modifying VMAs.
>>
>> Could you give an example of this? Is this something along the lines of
>> a mmap(MAP_FIXED) wiping out an earlier mapping? Or, is it more subtle
>> than that?
>
> Yes, that's one example. And the same applies to other operations on the
> VMA. E.g. another case we'd like to prevent would be munmap(addr) where
> addr is covered by a pkey to which the calling thread doesn't have access
> permissions to.
Yeah, that's something for which our defenses are quite weak. But, it
also calls for a very generic mm/ solution and not something specific at
all to pkeys.
I assume that you wouldn't want to turn off *all* mmap(), MAP_FIXED or
munmap() in the process. You just want to make one or more VMAs more or
less immutable. That _sounds_ like a topic that would have broached at
some point in the past, although it doesn't ring any bells.
The concept would make a good lightning talk at Plumbers of LSF/MM.
>>> 2) It would be very helpful to have a mechanism for the signal stack to
>>> be PK aware, in the sense that the kernel would switch to a predefined
>>> PK. i.e. having a new interface to sigaltstack() which includes a PK.
>>
>> Are you thinking that when switching to the sigaltstack that it would
>> also pick up a specific PKRU value? Or, that it would ensure that PKRU
>> allows access to the sigaltstack's pkey?
>
> Either of those would work for us.
>
>> Logically something like this:
>>
>> stack_t sas = {
>> ss_sp = stack_ptr;
>> ss_flags = ... flags;
>> ss_size = ...;
>> ss_pkey = 12;
>> };
>>
>> Then the kernel would set up RSP to point to ss_sp, and do (logically):
>>
>> pkkru &= ~(3<<(12*2)); // clear Write and Access-disable for pkey-12
>>
>> before building the signal frame running the signal handler?
>
> Yeah, that would work for our use case.
> We also have a doc discussing this in more detail :) :
That doesn't seem like it would be too much of a stretch. There's a
delicate point when building the stack frame that the kernel would need
to move over to the new PKRU value to build the frame before it writes
the *OLD* value to the frame. But, it's far from impossible.
I also bet we could do this with minimal new ABI. There's already a
->ss_flags field. We could assign a flag to mean that stack_t doesn't
end at '->ss_size' and that there's a pkey value *after* ss_size. I do
think having a single pkey that is made accessible before signal entry
is a more flexible ABI than taking an explicit PKRU value.
I think that would allow just reusing sys_sigaltstack().
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