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Date:   Mon, 5 Sep 2022 07:04:52 -0400
From:   Gustavo Padovan <gustavo.padovan@...labora.com>
To:     kernelci-members@...ups.io,
        "kernelci@...ups.io" <kernelci@...ups.io>
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        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
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        Simon Xiao <sixiao@...rosoft.com>,
        Carlos Cardenas <Carlos.Cardenas@...rosoft.com>,
        KY Srinivasan <kys@...rosoft.com>,
        Sharath George John <sgeorgejohn@...rosoft.com>,
        "Alain Gefflaut (HE/HIM)" <agefflaut@...rosoft.com>,
        Johnson George <Johnson.George@...rosoft.com>
Subject: Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

Hello,

I have learned that Today is holiday in the US and Canada. So I am 
moving this invite to the same time next week. If it doesn't work for 
people, we can start a new pool. Please let me know.

Regards,

Gustavo

Le 01/09/2022 à 15:32, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> The next meeting is next Monday September 5th at 12:00pm EDT. Invite 
> sent to those who answered the poll and the the members and tsc 
> mailing list. In any invite ics is attached.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Gustavo
>
> Le 29/08/2022 à 11:04, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> The previous tentative below didn't work due to vacation season. 
>> Here's a new pool with dates from 1st to 8th of September. Please 
>> answer it until this Wednesday August 31th.
>>
>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dG5v423a
>>
>> See the email below for meetings notes and current User Stories 
>> document.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gustavo
>>
>> On 7/18/22 10:17, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> In our last Web Dashboard meeting[1] where we reviewed the User 
>>> Stories document[2]. Then, after that we worked offline to 
>>> incorporate the feedback on doc, so it is time for our next meeting 
>>> to further discuss. Please answer the poll with your time 
>>> availability on the link below. I added dates from 21th to 28th of 
>>> July.
>>>
>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eX6vyY5b
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Gus
>>> —
>>> [1]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#bookmark=id.6ok0ufne9shj 
>>>
>>> [2]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit#heading=h.wjoxi4s5pxzl 
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/7/22 10:46, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Our next meeting has been scheduled for this Thursday at 3pm UTC. 
>>>> Invite was sent to the kernelci-members list, but here goes the 
>>>> instructions to join as well:
>>>>
>>>> This event has a video call.
>>>> Join: https://meet.google.com/yyz-jzjy-yfu
>>>> (US) +1 254-227-6870 PIN: 188509910#
>>>> View more phone numbers: 
>>>> https://tel.meet/yyz-jzjy-yfu?pin=5882595078642&hs=7
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Gustavo
>>>>
>>>> Le 31/05/2022 à 15:34, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>> *From our first meeting back in October[1], we took the action of 
>>>>> organizing our user stories that you were spread as a comments in 
>>>>> the the github issue{2} and, converting them into User Stories 
>>>>> document[3].*
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> In the next meeting, we want to study the current User Stories and 
>>>>> start discussions to progress on development. The proposed slots 
>>>>> are for next week. Please answer the doodle by the end of this week:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/egJ12A9d
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gustavo
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] 
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit# 
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [2] https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28 
>>>>> <https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28>
>>>>>
>>>>> {3} 
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit 
>>>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit>* 
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 27/07/2021 à 11:54, Guillaume Tucker a écrit :
>>>>>> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
>>>>>> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
>>>>>> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
>>>>>> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
>>>>>> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
>>>>>> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
>>>>>> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
>>>>>> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
>>>>>> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
>>>>>> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
>>>>>> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
>>>>>> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
>>>>>> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
>>>>>> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have. As
>>>>>> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
>>>>>> this gap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
>>>>>> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
>>>>>> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
>>>>>> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
>>>>>> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
>>>>>> governing board.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
>>>>>> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
>>>>>> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
>>>>>> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
>>>>>> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
>>>>>> still need formal confirmation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
>>>>>> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
>>>>>> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
>>>>>> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
>>>>>> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
>>>>>> this effort in any other way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> Guillaume
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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