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Date:   Mon, 5 Sep 2022 15:13:47 +0300
From:   Nikolai Kondrashov <Nikolai.Kondrashov@...hat.com>
To:     kernelci@...ups.io, gustavo.padovan@...labora.com,
        kernelci-members@...ups.io
Cc:     automated-testing@...ts.yoctoproject.org,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "kernelci-tsc@...ups.io" <kernelci-tsc@...ups.io>,
        Simon Xiao <sixiao@...rosoft.com>,
        Carlos Cardenas <Carlos.Cardenas@...rosoft.com>,
        KY Srinivasan <kys@...rosoft.com>,
        Sharath George John <sgeorgejohn@...rosoft.com>,
        "Alain Gefflaut (HE/HIM)" <agefflaut@...rosoft.com>,
        Johnson George <Johnson.George@...rosoft.com>
Subject: Re: [kernelci-members] KernelCI working group: Web Dashboard

Hello Gustavo,

It probably won't work next week, as much of KernelCI (at least) will be at 
the Linux Plumbers conference.

Nick

On 9/5/22 14:04, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have learned that Today is holiday in the US and Canada. So I am moving this 
> invite to the same time next week. If it doesn't work for people, we can start 
> a new pool. Please let me know.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Gustavo
> 
> Le 01/09/2022 à 15:32, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> The next meeting is next Monday September 5th at 12:00pm EDT. Invite sent to 
>> those who answered the poll and the the members and tsc mailing list. In any 
>> invite ics is attached.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Gustavo
>>
>> Le 29/08/2022 à 11:04, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> The previous tentative below didn't work due to vacation season. Here's a 
>>> new pool with dates from 1st to 8th of September. Please answer it until 
>>> this Wednesday August 31th.
>>>
>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/dG5v423a
>>>
>>> See the email below for meetings notes and current User Stories document.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gustavo
>>>
>>> On 7/18/22 10:17, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> In our last Web Dashboard meeting[1] where we reviewed the User Stories 
>>>> document[2]. Then, after that we worked offline to incorporate the 
>>>> feedback on doc, so it is time for our next meeting to further discuss. 
>>>> Please answer the poll with your time availability on the link below. I 
>>>> added dates from 21th to 28th of July.
>>>>
>>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eX6vyY5b
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Gus
>>>> —
>>>> [1]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#bookmark=id.6ok0ufne9shj
>>>> [2]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit#heading=h.wjoxi4s5pxzl
>>>>
>>>> On 6/7/22 10:46, Gustavo Padovan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Our next meeting has been scheduled for this Thursday at 3pm UTC. Invite 
>>>>> was sent to the kernelci-members list, but here goes the instructions to 
>>>>> join as well:
>>>>>
>>>>> This event has a video call.
>>>>> Join: https://meet.google.com/yyz-jzjy-yfu
>>>>> (US) +1 254-227-6870 PIN: 188509910#
>>>>> View more phone numbers: 
>>>>> https://tel.meet/yyz-jzjy-yfu?pin=5882595078642&hs=7
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gustavo
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 31/05/2022 à 15:34, Gustavo Padovan a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From our first meeting back in October[1], we took the action of 
>>>>>> organizing our user stories that you were spread as a comments in the 
>>>>>> the github issue{2} and, converting them into User Stories document[3].*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the next meeting, we want to study the current User Stories and start 
>>>>>> discussions to progress on development. The proposed slots are for next 
>>>>>> week. Please answer the doodle by the end of this week:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/egJ12A9d
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gustavo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] 
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit# <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yp-2L54tnrwkZ--59t2GeXuq1gt5dDnsFy08odizl1Y/edit#>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/discussions/28>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> {3} 
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_rfMpas4n_gw2GvUTRU63vIXk95VotJuittalX7trP8/edit>*
>>>>>> Le 27/07/2021 à 11:54, Guillaume Tucker a écrit :
>>>>>>> Last year's KernelCI Community Survey[1] showed the importance of
>>>>>>> having a good web dashboard.  About 70% of respondents would use
>>>>>>> one if it provided the information they needed efficiently.
>>>>>>> While other things are arguably even more important, such as
>>>>>>> testing patches from mailing lists, replying to stable reviews
>>>>>>> and sending email reports directly to contributors in a "natural"
>>>>>>> workflow, the web dashboard has been a sticking point for a
>>>>>>> while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have been several attempts at solving this problem, using
>>>>>>> Elastic Stack and Grafana among other things, but there isn't a
>>>>>>> single framework able to directly provide an off-the-shelf
>>>>>>> solution to the community's needs.  In fact, the first issue is
>>>>>>> the lack of understanding of these needs: who wants to use the
>>>>>>> web dashboard, and how?  Then, how does one translate those needs
>>>>>>> into a user interface?  Doing this requires skills that engineers
>>>>>>> who regularly contribute to KernelCI typically don't have. As
>>>>>>> such, a dedicated working group is being created in order to fill
>>>>>>> this gap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The aim is to coordinate efforts and try to follow best practices
>>>>>>> to make steady progress and avoid repeating the same mistakes.
>>>>>>> Most likely, we will need some help from proper web developers
>>>>>>> who aren't part of the usual KernelCI community.  This may be
>>>>>>> facilitated by the KernelCI LF project budget if approved by the
>>>>>>> governing board.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to get started, we would need to have maybe 3 to 5
>>>>>>> people available to focus on this.  It doesn't necessarily mean a
>>>>>>> lot of hours spent but actions to be carried out on a daily or
>>>>>>> weekly basis.  So far we have Gustavo Padovan as our new KernelCI
>>>>>>> Project Manager and a few people have expressed interest but we
>>>>>>> still need formal confirmation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's a GitHub project dedicated to the new web dashboard:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    https://github.com/orgs/kernelci/projects/4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've created a couple of issues to get started about user
>>>>>>> stories, and some initial milestones as a basic skeleton:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/kernelci/kernelci-project/milestones
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is ultimately a community-driven effort to address the needs
>>>>>>> of the kernel community.  Please share any thoughts you may have
>>>>>>> on this, whether you want to add some user stories, share some
>>>>>>> expertise, be officially in the working group or take part in
>>>>>>> this effort in any other way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>> Guillaume
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]https://foundation.kernelci.org/blog/2020/07/09/kernelci-community-survey-report/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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