linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 00/30] Code tagging framework and applications

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Message-ID: <20220907094306.3383dac2@gandalf.local.home>
Date:   Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:45:18 -0400
From:   Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:     Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...ux.dev>
Cc:     Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
        Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@...gle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/30] Code tagging framework and applications

On Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:04:28 -0400
Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@...ux.dev> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 01:00:09PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Hmm, it seems that further discussion doesn't really make much sense
> > here. I know how to use my time better.  
> 
> Just a thought, but I generally find it more productive to propose ideas than to
> just be disparaging.
> 

But it's not Michal's job to do so. He's just telling you that the given
feature is not worth the burden. He's telling you the issues that he has
with the patch set. It's the submitter's job to address those concerns and
not the maintainer's to tell you how to make it better.

When Linus tells us that a submission is crap, we don't ask him how to make
it less crap, we listen to why he called it crap, and then rewrite to be
not so crappy. If we cannot figure it out, it doesn't get in.

-- Steve