linux-kernel - Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla blues"

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Message-ID: <a86adc6d-05db-ec2e-c5de-d280aad9fb8a@leemhuis.info>
Date:   Fri, 30 Sep 2022 11:35:16 +0200
From:   Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@...mhuis.info>
To:     Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>,
        Slade Watkins <srw@...dewatkins.net>
Cc:     "Artem S. Tashkinov" <aros@....com>,
        Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@...uxfoundation.org>,
        workflows@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "regressions@...ts.linux.dev" <regressions@...ts.linux.dev>,
        ksummit@...ts.linux.dev
Subject: Re: Planned changes for bugzilla.kernel.org to reduce the "Bugzilla
 blues"

On 29.09.22 18:42, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:54:17AM -0400, Slade Watkins wrote:
>>> On Sep 29, 2022, at 10:22 AM, Artem S. Tashkinov <aros@....com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've mentioned several times already that mailing lists are _even worse_
>>> in terms of reporting issues. Developers get emails and simply ignore
>>> them (for a multitude of reasons).
>>
>> It’s 100% true that emails get _buried_ as waves of them come in (LKML
>> itself gets hundreds upon hundreds a day, as I’m sure all of you know)
>> and it just isn’t something I personally see as viable, especially for
>> issues that may or may not be high priority.
> 
> E-mails are not that bad to report issues, but they can't provide the
> core feature that any bug tracker oughts to have: tracking. There's no
> way, with the tools we have at the moment (including public-inbox, b4
> and lei), to track the status of bug reports and fixes.

Well, I'd disagree partially with that, as my regression tracking bot
"regzbot"
(https://gitlab.com/knurd42/regzbot/-/blob/main/docs/getting_started.md
; https://linux-regtracking.leemhuis.info/regzbot/mainline/) does
exactly does that: tracking, by connect the dots (e.g. monitoring
replies to a report as well recording when patches are posted or
committed that link to the report using Link: tags), while making sure
nothing important is forgotten. But sure, it's still very rough and
definitely not a full bug-tracker (my goal is/was to not create yet
another one) and needs quite a bit of hand holding from my side. And I
only use it for regressions and not for bugs (on purpose).

Ciao, Thorsten