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Message-ID: <cc0050ba-0eff-fead-f739-b1dda011cd25@amd.com>
Date:   Wed, 23 Nov 2022 11:11:46 +0530
From:   Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@....com>
To:     Liang Yan <lyan@...italocean.com>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@....com>, x86@...nel.org,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arch/x86/events/amd/core.c: Return -ENODEV when CPU does
 not have PERFCTL_CORE bit

On 11/14/2022 4:22 PM, Sandipan Das wrote:
> On 11/13/2022 4:03 AM, Liang Yan wrote:
>>
>> On 10/31/22 10:28, Sandipan Das wrote:
>>> Hi Liang, Peter,
>>>
>>> On 10/31/2022 6:29 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 09:35:11AM -0400, Liang Yan wrote:
>>>>> After disabling cpu.perfctr_core in qemu, I noticed that the guest kernel
>>>>> still loads the pmu driver while the cpuid does not have perfctl_core.
>>>>>
>>>>> The test is running on an EPYC Rome machine.
>>>>> root@...ntu-s-4vcpu-8gb-amd-nyc1-01:~# lscpu | grep perfctl
>>>>> root@...ntu-s-4vcpu-8gb-amd-nyc1-01:~#
>>>>> root@...ntu-s-4vcpu-8gb-amd-nyc1-01:~# dmesg | grep PMU
>>>>> [    0.732097] Performance Events: AMD PMU driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> By further looking,
>>>>>
>>>>> ==> init_hw_perf_events
>>>>>      ==> amd_pmu_init
>>>>>          ==> amd_core_pmu_init
>>>>>              ==>
>>>>>                  if (!boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_PERFCTR_CORE))
>>>>>             return 0;
>>>>>
>>>>> With returning 0, it will bypass amd_pmu_init and return 0 to
>>>>> init_hw_perf_events, and continue the initialization.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a perf expert and not sure if it is expected for AMD PMU,
>>>>> otherwise, it would be nice to return -ENODEV instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> New output after the change:
>>>>> root@...ntu-s-4vcpu-8gb-amd-nyc1-01:~# dmesg | grep PMU
>>>>> [    0.531609] Performance Events: no PMU driver, software events only.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Liang Yan <lyan@...talocean.com>
>>>> Looks about right, Ravi?
>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>   arch/x86/events/amd/core.c | 2 +-
>>>>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/events/amd/core.c b/arch/x86/events/amd/core.c
>>>>> index 8b70237c33f7..34d3d2944020 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/events/amd/core.c
>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/events/amd/core.c
>>>>> @@ -1335,7 +1335,7 @@ static int __init amd_core_pmu_init(void)
>>>>>       int i;
>>>>>         if (!boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_PERFCTR_CORE))
>>>>> -        return 0;
>>>>> +        return -ENODEV;
>>>>>   
>>> There are four legacy counters that are always available even when PERFCTR_CORE
>>> is absent. This is why the code returns 0 here. I found this to be a bit confusing
>>> as well during PerfMonV2 development so I wrote the following patch but forgot to
>>> send it out.
>>
>>
>> Hi Sandipan,
>>
>> Thanks for the classification.
>> Do these legacy counters belong to the AMD PMU property from a VM perspective? I mean, if I want to disable PMU for an AMD vcpu for some reason, is it possible to disable perfctr_core and the four counters, or is this not logical since the four counters could not be disabled from the bare-metal level?
>> I asked because I saw 'pmu' could be disabled for Intel and ARM, but it seems not for AMD.
>>
> 
> From what I see, the four legacy counters are not tied to any processor
> properties (e.g. CPUID bits). Disabling "perfctr-core" only brings the
> number of supported core counters down to 4 from 6. So guests exhibit
> the same behaviour as bare-metal where the legacy counters are used if
> CPUID 0x80000001[ECX].PerfCtrExtCore is not set.
> 
> The "pmu" property only overrides guest CPUID. Hence it is not possible
> to prevent the discovery of the legacy counters using that.
> 

Following up on this:

KVM has an "enable_pmu" parameter which when disabled can turn off guest PMC
access completely.

Here's how it works:

Upon setting enable_pmu=0, the PMC MSR interceptions fail. The SVM code also
takes care of clearing the PerfCtrExtCore bit for the guest CPUID (see
svm_set_cpu_caps() in arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c).

During PMU initialization, check_hw_exists() from arch/x86/events/core.c tests
if all the required PMC MSRs are accessible by reading them. For a guest, this
fails due to an exception and stops hardware PMU initialization. At this point,
the guest kernel continues with just software events.

>> Also, could you please list the four legacy counters here?
>>
> 
> The MSRs for the four legacy counters are:
>   0xc001000[0..3] known as PERF_LEGACY_CTL[0..3], alias of PERF_CTL[0..3]
>   0xc001000[4..7] known as PERF_LEGACY_CTR[0..3], alias of PERF_CTR[0..3]
> 
> You can find more details in the Processor Programming Reference (PPR) that
> is appropriate for the AMD processor that you are using. PPRs can be found
> at: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206537
> 
>>
>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/events/amd/core.c b/arch/x86/events/amd/core.c
>>> index 262e39a85031..d3eb7b2f4dda 100644
>>> --- a/arch/x86/events/amd/core.c
>>> +++ b/arch/x86/events/amd/core.c
>>> @@ -1345,6 +1345,14 @@ static int __init amd_core_pmu_init(void)
>>>       u64 even_ctr_mask = 0ULL;
>>>       int i;
>>>   +    /*
>>> +     * All processors support four PMCs even when X86_FEATURE_PERFCTR_CORE
>>> +     * is unavailable. They are programmable via the PERF_LEGACY_CTLx and
>>> +     * PERF_LEGACY_CTRx registers which have the same address as that of
>>> +     * MSR_K7_EVNTSELx and MSR_K7_PERFCTRx. For Family 17h+, these are
>>> +     * legacy aliases of PERF_CTLx and PERF_CTRx respectively. Hence, not
>>> +     * returning -ENODEV here.
>>> +     */
>>>       if (!boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_PERFCTR_CORE))
>>>           return 0;
>>>
>>>
>>> If this looks good to you, I will post it.
>>>
>>> - Sandipan
>>>
> 

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