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Date:   Fri, 9 Dec 2022 18:56:24 +0000
From:   "Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@...el.com>
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        Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
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Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH 1/5] nvme-pci: add function nvme_submit_vf_cmd to
 issue admin commands for VF driver.

> 
> If following the direction having controlling function to explicitly provide
> services then all those doorbells should be deprecated and instead we want
> explicit communications between VF driver and PF driver.

Hardware mechanism of communication (door bell here) can be used to 
support broader scenario when VF driver and PF driver run in 2 different
OS kernels (when the VF is assigned to a VM).

> 
> From userspace driver p.o.v. the VFIO uAPI is kind of a device programming
> interface. Here we just present everything related to the controlled device
> itself (including the state management) via a centralized portal though in the
> kernel there might be linkage out of VFIO to reach the controlling driver. kind
> of a sw doorbell. 😊

Yes.
And sw doorbell is more efficient than hardware doorbell 😊 .

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